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    Platform Mediumship.

    Post  SpiritVoices on Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:45 pm

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    What are the preparations for Platform Mediumship?

    On attending my spiritualist church,I watch the medium sit down after greeting the congregation,see her or him silently concentrating with head bowed.

    I guess they are contacting spirit ready for the messages to come through to the audience.
    What I am curious about is.....how do the devil do spirit gather so quickly to contact the medium when it takes me hours and hours  just to get spirit to talk to me?:happy:

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    Post  mac on Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:09 pm

    Blueanchor wrote:Mac, when I first began socialising amongst others with spiritual interests, people were either interested in mediumship or wicca and I took part in psychic/mediumship development circles (as many people did in those days). What I found was that the ability to speak with spirit, that I had had since childhood, came back. 

    I still am interested and practising in communication with spirit. But I am fortunate in that I had never doubted the continuation of life after death and so evidential mediumship isn't something that interests me because I don't need that evidence. Also, I haven't needed contact with anyone that has died and those that have wanted to contact me have done so.

    I am interested in the life of the spirit (outside of physical life) and have some wonderful experiences with spirit. But I feel that the spiritualist churches haven't equipped people with understanding of mediumship beyond that practised solely for evidence. Sadly a few experiences on an SNU affiliated website many years ago, led me to give up on the term 'mediumship' and today I speak about all of my experiences, including speaking to spirit beings, as being psychic. 

    If I am an example, then maybe it's not that interest in mediumship has gone, but that the definition of mediumship has become ever more narrowed and excluded many people that once would have shared experiences and joined in discussions about life after death.
    Interesting points but why directed at me by mentioning my name?  It's your story anyway and I'm interested in one issue at least.

    I don't know what SNU affiliated website you mean, or what happened there, but I can see that we two see mediumship in different ways.  First let me say that I'm not a member of, or affiliated with, the SNU.  So whatever the SNU and I concur about there's no direct or deliberate linkage between us.

    I use the term 'medium' and 'mediumship' in ways I feel are very simple.  Others see those terms differently from the way I do.  That's fine by me but it can cause misunderstanding hence I'm often at pains to point out the differences I know about before anyone else does.  I don't expect others to use the same meanings as I do but it helps a discussion when they first explain how they see/define things.

    In response to one point you've made I don't feel that mediumship's definition has become narrowed in the way you suggest.  The way I know it is the way I've always known it but I am very aware that different definitions are in use, especially in North America, perhaps in Australia and maybe here in the UK too. 

    Whatever definition is favoured I don't see why anyone would be excluded who understands the notion of survival, the aspects of life, death and what comes next.

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    Post  mac on Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:23 pm

    Blueanchor wrote:"I'm puzzled.  Did Cassy say something rude about Lynne's posting?  And did it leave you cold, Blueanchor?  Or say unpleasant things about threads written by people that do visit the site regularly?

     If so I didn't see any of them."

    No. Be the change you want to see, rather than criticize other peoples contributions was my point to Cassy.

    My conversation with you was following the conversation that you opened about whether interest in mediumship is waining. I responded to your comment because it's interesting lol.
    So Cassy hadn't said anything rude, anything that left you cold, or anything unpleasant about others' threads?  Whatever point you had intended to make I simply saw what you'd written. 

    I found it confusing that you apparently referred to things that hadn't been said and address your remarks by using my name as if it had relevance to what I'd written.

    And I didn't actually see any criticism of anyone in what Cassy wrote.
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    Post  Blueanchor on Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:38 pm

    It was a response to your post about lack of interest in traditional mediumship Mac, mentioning your name was just to indicate that.

    I think there are lots of people still interested in evidence based mediumship and to some it is a help because maybe they need that proof of life after death.

    But for me and perhaps others that share similar experiences of beings in spirit, evidential mediumship is like one town in a much wider world. Visiting other places in that world doesn't negate or de-value that town. But I do recognise that communication with that one town has come to be known as mediumship and that's why I don't bother using the term, even though I am a medium between spirit and the physical world at times, just from different towns (ok enough of that analogy lol).

    I don't mind avoiding the term mediumship, but it probably makes it hard to recognise my interest in it because I don't speak about it in that way.

    Just a thought, but if the intention of evidential mediumship is to show people that life continues, then when those people come to accept that fact, maybe they don't need mediumship to show them anymore. So maybe it's a positive that fewer people feel the need for that evidence.
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    Post  Blueanchor on Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:49 pm

    mac wrote:
    Blueanchor wrote:"I'm puzzled.  Did Cassy say something rude about Lynne's posting?  And did it leave you cold, Blueanchor?  Or say unpleasant things about threads written by people that do visit the site regularly?

     If so I didn't see any of them."

    No. Be the change you want to see, rather than criticize other peoples contributions was my point to Cassy.

    My conversation with you was following the conversation that you opened about whether interest in mediumship is waining. I responded to your comment because it's interesting lol.
    So Cassy hadn't said anything rude, anything that left you cold, or anything unpleasant about others' threads?  Whatever point you had intended to make I simply saw what you'd written. 

    I found it confusing that you apparently referred to things that hadn't been said and address your remarks by using my name as if it had relevance to what I'd written.

    And I didn't actually see any criticism of anyone in what Cassy wrote.

    My response to Cassy was to Cassy saying "I'm afraid that the current topics leave me cold".
    We each have opinions but I find it rude to comment in that way about topics that others have taken the time to write. 
    You can always go back and read the posts if you really want, but I edited the post I wrote to Cassy to put it there. It hasn't got your name on it.

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    Post  mac on Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:12 pm

    Blueanchor wrote:It was a response to your post about lack of interest in traditional mediumship Mac, mentioning your name was just to indicate that.

    I think there are lots of people still interested in evidence based mediumship and to some it is a help because maybe they need that proof of life after death.

    But for me and perhaps others that share similar experiences of beings in spirit, evidential mediumship is like one town in a much wider world. Visiting other places in that world doesn't negate or de-value that town. But I do recognise that communication with that one town has come to be known as mediumship and that's why I don't bother using the term, even though I am a medium between spirit and the physical world at times, just from different towns (ok enough of that analogy lol).

    I don't mind avoiding the term mediumship, but it probably makes it hard to recognise my interest in it because I don't speak about it in that way.

    Just a thought, but if the intention of evidential mediumship is to show people that life continues, then when those people come to accept that fact, maybe they don't need mediumship to show them anymore. So maybe it's a positive that fewer people feel the need for that evidence.
    Re your first paragraph it seemed a long time ago that I'd written whatever it was and I had to go back to February 18 to find it - little wonder it seemed a long time back and I couldn't figure why it was I you'd mentioned!

    Re your second paragraph you may be right that (quote) "....lots of people are interested in evidence based mediumship...." but that's your view and may not be factual.  I just don't know.

    Re your third paragraph communication between discarnates and incarnates via a third party is - to this simple soul - mediumship.  If there's evidence of identity then it's evidential mediumship for me - simple description for a simple soul.  BUT I know from 'speaking' to others online that their view of mediumship isn't what I see as mediumship.  Not saying they're wrong only that they have a different view from mine.

    Re your final paragraph I wholeheartedly agree with you.  It describes my situation pretty well.  I quickly found I had no further need to experience mediumship once life after death became something I knew rather than simply believed in.  I'm delighted when I learn that others have similarly found they have no further need either.

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    Post  mac on Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:23 pm

    Blueanchor wrote:
    mac wrote:
    Blueanchor wrote:"I'm puzzled.  Did Cassy say something rude about Lynne's posting?  And did it leave you cold, Blueanchor?  Or say unpleasant things about threads written by people that do visit the site regularly?

     If so I didn't see any of them."

    No. Be the change you want to see, rather than criticize other peoples contributions was my point to Cassy.

    My conversation with you was following the conversation that you opened about whether interest in mediumship is waining. I responded to your comment because it's interesting lol.
    So Cassy hadn't said anything rude, anything that left you cold, or anything unpleasant about others' threads?  Whatever point you had intended to make I simply saw what you'd written. 

    I found it confusing that you apparently referred to things that hadn't been said and address your remarks by using my name as if it had relevance to what I'd written.

    And I didn't actually see any criticism of anyone in what Cassy wrote.

    My response to Cassy was to Cassy saying "I'm afraid that the current topics leave me cold".
    We each have opinions but I find it rude to comment in that way about topics that others have taken the time to write. 
    You can always go back and read the posts if you really want, but I edited the post I wrote to Cassy to put it there. It hasn't got your name on it.
    I guess I must be thick-skinned as I didn't read anything rude. 

    What I think has then happened is that you've replied to something I wrote a couple of weeks back in the same posting as your response to a more recent contribution.
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    Post  Blueanchor on Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:47 pm

    Yes, on forums time of writing and time of reading and esponding may be very different.

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    Post  mac on Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:14 am

    Blueanchor wrote:Yes, on forums time of writing and time of reading and esponding may be very different.
    And that's why hitting the 'quote' button on the relevant posting before responding is helpful by directly and visibly linking a new posting to an earlier one, as I did just now.
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    Post  Blueanchor on Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:21 am

    mac wrote:
    Blueanchor wrote:Yes, on forums time of writing and time of reading and esponding may be very different.
    And that's why hitting the 'quote' button on the relevant posting before responding is helpful by directly and visibly linking a new posting to an earlier one, as I did just now.
    I tend to go back and re-read posts and it's usually clear. But if a quote will help you, I don't mind doing that.

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    Post  mac on Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:51 am

    Blueanchor wrote:
    mac wrote:
    Blueanchor wrote:Yes, on forums time of writing and time of reading and esponding may be very different.
    And that's why hitting the 'quote' button on the relevant posting before responding is helpful by directly and visibly linking a new posting to an earlier one, as I did just now.
    I tend to go back and re-read posts and it's usually clear. But if a quote will help you, I don't mind doing that.
    Hitting the quote button first is always helpful for me when a response is being made to a specific posting.  And it saves having to go looking.   It also means someone uninvolved and perhaps also a new viewer may better follow the flow of a thread.....
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    Post  Cassy7 on Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:06 pm

    My comment about topics leaving me cold was in no way I assure you criticising the topics or those who write or contribute to them, and I'm sorry if this is how it came over.  It is just an expression of how I feel about subjects that interest others these days, and I feel rather sad about it because I used to be interested in anything and everything spiritual.  So it's a criticism of me, not anyone else.  Thanks to everyone for their replies.  Cassy x


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    Post  Blueanchor on Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:16 pm

    Cassy7 wrote:My comment about topics leaving me cold was in no way I assure you criticising the topics or those who write or contribute to them, and I'm sorry if this is how it came over.  It is just an expression of how I feel about subjects that interest others these days, and I feel rather sad about it because I used to be interested in anything and everything spiritual.  So it's a criticism of me, not anyone else.  Thanks to everyone for their replies.  Cassy x
    No problem, thanks for explaining. Interests change for the better sometimes, but if it's making you sad it maybe hasn't been for the best?
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    Post  Cassy7 on Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:38 pm

    Blueanchor wrote:
    Cassy7 wrote:My comment about topics leaving me cold was in no way I assure you criticising the topics or those who write or contribute to them, and I'm sorry if this is how it came over.  It is just an expression of how I feel about subjects that interest others these days, and I feel rather sad about it because I used to be interested in anything and everything spiritual.  So it's a criticism of me, not anyone else.  Thanks to everyone for their replies.  Cassy x
    No problem, thanks for explaining. Interests change for the better sometimes, but if it's making you sad it maybe hasn't been for the best?
    Perhaps I've just been at it too long - since I was a child in fact (and that's a very long time ago now!) and there is the feeling of been there, done that, either got the t-shirt or not interested anymore. My interest used to be new and exciting and all consuming and it just isn't anymore and that feels like a rather sad loss.  Thanks for your reply :flo:
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    Post  Blueanchor on Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:39 am

    Cassy7 wrote:
    Blueanchor wrote:
    Cassy7 wrote:My comment about topics leaving me cold was in no way I assure you criticising the topics or those who write or contribute to them, and I'm sorry if this is how it came over.  It is just an expression of how I feel about subjects that interest others these days, and I feel rather sad about it because I used to be interested in anything and everything spiritual.  So it's a criticism of me, not anyone else.  Thanks to everyone for their replies.  Cassy x
    No problem, thanks for explaining. Interests change for the better sometimes, but if it's making you sad it maybe hasn't been for the best?
    Perhaps I've just been at it too long - since I was a child in fact (and that's a very long time ago now!) and there is the feeling of been there, done that, either got the t-shirt or not interested anymore. My interest used to be new and exciting and all consuming and it just isn't anymore and that feels like a rather sad loss.  Thanks for your reply :flo:
    So have I, (been at it since a child) and I'm no spring chicken lol. My interests certainly aren't the same as they used to be - like I said to Mac, I've sat in development circles etc and left that behind. But that was just a small part of a whole path and my path has continued. Spirituality and life changes go hand in hand. It sounds like your heart and spirit need something new and exciting.

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    Post  mac on Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:07 am

    Cassy7 wrote:
    Blueanchor wrote:
    Cassy7 wrote:My comment about topics leaving me cold was in no way I assure you criticising the topics or those who write or contribute to them, and I'm sorry if this is how it came over.  It is just an expression of how I feel about subjects that interest others these days, and I feel rather sad about it because I used to be interested in anything and everything spiritual.  So it's a criticism of me, not anyone else.  Thanks to everyone for their replies.  Cassy x
    No problem, thanks for explaining. Interests change for the better sometimes, but if it's making you sad it maybe hasn't been for the best?
    Perhaps I've just been at it too long - since I was a child in fact (and that's a very long time ago now!) and there is the feeling of been there, done that, either got the t-shirt or not interested anymore. My interest used to be new and exciting and all consuming and it just isn't anymore and that feels like a rather sad loss.  Thanks for your reply :flo:
    I can identify with what you're feeling although I've had only three decades 'in the spooks'. 

    Learning about survival was exciting for me too, all-consuming in the way it was for you, Cassy.  For a long time I could not get too much information but eventually the pace of my learning/experiencing began to slow and although it was disappointing it was also understandable.  Then I found discussion forums and on them interesting, knowledgeable people with new perspectives.  It became a new and interesting time with many discussions and debates but member attendance on most websites declined noticeably, subject discussion increasingly repetitious.

    There is, of course, only so much that can be discussed without repetition.  New seekers in the shape of new website members can provide a sound reason for staying around discussion forums.  But I've seen that new seekers often need to learn for themselves the way we learned for ourselves.  Our understanding, our personal experiences are not necessarily similarly meaningful for others although they may be illustrative.  Seekers want to walk their own paths even if they're similar to the ones we walked.  Who wants just to listen to how beautiful a walk is?  We want to do the walk for ourselves and see the beauty first-hand.

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    Post  littlebee on Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:05 pm

    Cassy7 wrote:
    Blueanchor wrote:
    Cassy7 wrote:My comment about topics leaving me cold was in no way I assure you criticising the topics or those who write or contribute to them, and I'm sorry if this is how it came over.  It is just an expression of how I feel about subjects that interest others these days, and I feel rather sad about it because I used to be interested in anything and everything spiritual.  So it's a criticism of me, not anyone else.  Thanks to everyone for their replies.  Cassy x
    No problem, thanks for explaining. Interests change for the better sometimes, but if it's making you sad it maybe hasn't been for the best?
    Perhaps I've just been at it too long - since I was a child in fact (and that's a very long time ago now!) and there is the feeling of been there, done that, either got the t-shirt or not interested anymore. My interest used to be new and exciting and all consuming and it just isn't anymore and that feels like a rather sad loss.  Thanks for your reply :flo:
    I can understand where your coming from also, perhaps your journey has changed that's all, just a thought. I found that, for myself, that my journey had me focusing more inward.
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    Post  Cassy7 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:35 am

    littlebee wrote:
    Cassy7 wrote:
    Blueanchor wrote:
    Cassy7 wrote:My comment about topics leaving me cold was in no way I assure you criticising the topics or those who write or contribute to them, and I'm sorry if this is how it came over.  It is just an expression of how I feel about subjects that interest others these days, and I feel rather sad about it because I used to be interested in anything and everything spiritual.  So it's a criticism of me, not anyone else.  Thanks to everyone for their replies.  Cassy x
    No problem, thanks for explaining. Interests change for the better sometimes, but if it's making you sad it maybe hasn't been for the best?
    Perhaps I've just been at it too long - since I was a child in fact (and that's a very long time ago now!) and there is the feeling of been there, done that, either got the t-shirt or not interested anymore. My interest used to be new and exciting and all consuming and it just isn't anymore and that feels like a rather sad loss.  Thanks for your reply :flo:
    I can understand where your coming from also, perhaps your journey has changed that's all, just a thought. I found that, for myself, that my journey had me focusing more inward.
    Thanks - yes I'd say there is a more inward focus now. 

    Also an unplanned and unexpected interest took over.  Before I retired three years ago people would ask "what are you going to do with your time when you've retired?".  I found myself blurting out "oh, I'm going to do my family tree" - and I honestly don't know where that idea came from, or that I even really meant it. It was almost like it was just something to say.  However I did, and still am, researching my family tree, and have been asked to do family research for several friends and family. I have had so much "luck" in this that I've become known by family and friends as an expert at genealogy, but in fact I'm a total amateur and I am convinced that the luck in my research is due to those that have passed over wanting their story to be told and they nudge me in the right direction to find the necessary information. These "nudges" come through so quickly my fingers can hardly keep up on the keyboard, and the information I've been able to give people has for example helped to heal old family rows, and brought understanding and acceptance of adoption. 

    There have also been so many incidents of "coincidence" that my sister says I should write a book about it! Here is just one example - an 80 year old relative with memory loss due to a head injury asked me to find out where her baby is buried.  He died at 5 days old in 1952, and she was desperately upset that she couldn't remember.  The only thing that she could remember is that her husband (who died many years ago) was in the RAF. They had travelled around so she had no idea even where in the country they lived.  By amazing stokes of luck I located the cemetery in which her son is buried, and saw on the burial register that the family lived in RAF quarters on Whittakers Field.  I contacted the church warden to find out the burial plot, and he asked in conversation where the family had lived in 1952.  When I told him there was a stunned silence and he said "I bought Whittakers Field and built my house on it, it's where I live now".  My relative was taken by her daughter to lay flowers on the baby's grave a few days later and I just "knew" that the speed and ease at which I'd found out where it is and the successful outcome was down to more than just me.

    Hope this makes some sense, and thanks for taking the time to read it all!  Cassy x

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    Post  littlebee on Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:10 am

    Cassy7 wrote:
    littlebee wrote:
    Cassy7 wrote:
    Blueanchor wrote:
    Cassy7 wrote:My comment about topics leaving me cold was in no way I assure you criticising the topics or those who write or contribute to them, and I'm sorry if this is how it came over.  It is just an expression of how I feel about subjects that interest others these days, and I feel rather sad about it because I used to be interested in anything and everything spiritual.  So it's a criticism of me, not anyone else.  Thanks to everyone for their replies.  Cassy x
    No problem, thanks for explaining. Interests change for the better sometimes, but if it's making you sad it maybe hasn't been for the best?
    Perhaps I've just been at it too long - since I was a child in fact (and that's a very long time ago now!) and there is the feeling of been there, done that, either got the t-shirt or not interested anymore. My interest used to be new and exciting and all consuming and it just isn't anymore and that feels like a rather sad loss.  Thanks for your reply :flo:
    I can understand where your coming from also, perhaps your journey has changed that's all, just a thought. I found that, for myself, that my journey had me focusing more inward.
    Thanks - yes I'd say there is a more inward focus now. 

    Also an unplanned and unexpected interest took over.  Before I retired three years ago people would ask "what are you going to do with your time when you've retired?".  I found myself blurting out "oh, I'm going to do my family tree" - and I honestly don't know where that idea came from, or that I even really meant it. It was almost like it was just something to say.  However I did, and still am, researching my family tree, and have been asked to do family research for several friends and family. I have had so much "luck" in this that I've become known by family and friends as an expert at genealogy, but in fact I'm a total amateur and I am convinced that the luck in my research is due to those that have passed over wanting their story to be told and they nudge me in the right direction to find the necessary information. These "nudges" come through so quickly my fingers can hardly keep up on the keyboard, and the information I've been able to give people has for example helped to heal old family rows, and brought understanding and acceptance of adoption. 

    There have also been so many incidents of "coincidence" that my sister says I should write a book about it! Here is just one example - an 80 year old relative with memory loss due to a head injury asked me to find out where her baby is buried.  He died at 5 days old in 1952, and she was desperately upset that she couldn't remember.  The only thing that she could remember is that her husband (who died many years ago) was in the RAF. They had travelled around so she had no idea even where in the country they lived.  By amazing stokes of luck I located the cemetery in which her son is buried, and saw on the burial register that the family lived in RAF quarters on Whittakers Field.  I contacted the church warden to find out the burial plot, and he asked in conversation where the family had lived in 1952.  When I told him there was a stunned silence and he said "I bought Whittakers Field and built my house on it, it's where I live now".  My relative was taken by her daughter to lay flowers on the baby's grave a few days later and I just "knew" that the speed and ease at which I'd found out where it is and the successful outcome was down to more than just me.

    Hope this makes some sense, and thanks for taking the time to read it all!  Cassy x
    Absolutely fascinating Cassy! you had me enthralled! It is very interesting to see where your journey has led you. You had me on the edge of my seat, i was thinking that was so sad she couldn't remember due to her injury where her baby was buried so heartbreaking, i hope she found the resting place and yes! you did! amazing! I would say you did do allot of leg work but i agree everything just seems to flow perfectly. I think so too, that you have been guided, but then, you dont need my opinion as you already knew.

    I will be looking forward to your book! ;-)
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    Post  Cassy7 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:48 am

    Thanks so much Littlebee - I have thought about it and your appreciation of the bit about the baby (his name was Laurence) has given me encouragement!  flowerz

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