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    Is This Possibly True?

    Post  SpiritVoices on Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:55 pm

    'According to spiritualists direct-voice mediumship occurs when then those who have died can be heard talking in their own voices in the presence of a medium. The spirits do not use the medium's voice box or vocal organs but rather speak through a voice-box constructed of ectoplasm, a substance which forms from the medium’s body.
    All ectoplasm has been proven to be the result of fraud made of cheese-cloth, butter, muslin or other natural substances, so it is safe to conclude that direct-voice mediumship is also a scam. Flint denied any lights in his recording sessions and he would sometimes even perform his direct-voice mediumship in a cupboard. The question needs to be asked if direct voice mediumship is genuine then why do mediums need dark conditions and to hide in a cupboard? The reason is because in dark and hidden conditions all kinds of trickery from the medium can be performed.
    Flint also denied any filming of any kind in his recording sessions and insisted on performing in the dark thus all seance-goers and investigators were unable to see him during the performances so it is very easy to suggest he could have been using prerecorded tapes to produce voices, as well as live accomplices for providing two-way voice channels. The Society for Psychical Research investigated Flint and concluded that the voices heard at his seances were auditory hallucinations brought on by hypnosis.'


    Wikipedia.

    Someone brought this to my attention recently.


    Surely it is not true...
    I like Leslie Flint and always thought he was a genuine direct voice medium.
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    Post  Cassy7 on Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:17 pm

    SpiritVoices wrote:'According to spiritualists direct-voice mediumship occurs when then those who have died can be heard talking in their own voices in the presence of a medium. The spirits do not use the medium's voice box or vocal organs but rather speak through a voice-box constructed of ectoplasm, a substance which forms from the medium’s body.
    All ectoplasm has been proven to be the result of fraud made of cheese-cloth, butter, muslin or other natural substances, so it is safe to conclude that direct-voice mediumship is also a scam. Flint denied any lights in his recording sessions and he would sometimes even perform his direct-voice mediumship in a cupboard. The question needs to be asked if direct voice mediumship is genuine then why do mediums need dark conditions and to hide in a cupboard? The reason is because in dark and hidden conditions all kinds of trickery from the medium can be performed.
    Flint also denied any filming of any kind in his recording sessions and insisted on performing in the dark thus all seance-goers and investigators were unable to see him during the performances so it is very easy to suggest he could have been using prerecorded tapes to produce voices, as well as live accomplices for providing two-way voice channels. The Society for Psychical Research investigated Flint and concluded that the voices heard at his seances were auditory hallucinations brought on by hypnosis.'


    Wikipedia.

    Someone brought this to my attention recently.


    Surely it is not true...
    I like Leslie Flint and always thought he was a genuine direct voice medium.

    Hi Joan

    Personally I would take things on Wiki with a pinch of salt.  It's my understanding that anyone can write anything on there.  I heard about Leslie Flint some time ago and have read about him on the Leslie Flint Educational Trust website (you may already know about it?)  There is an interesting interview with him on there in which he describes how direct voice mediumship began. 

    Carole x

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    Post  zerdini on Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:51 pm

    There is an interesting interview with him on there in which he describes how direct voice mediumship began. 

    Carole x


    I sat with Leslie Flint on a regular basis for over ten years and can assure you the Wiki article is a load of rubbish.

    The actual interview was conducted by me and was copied by the LF Trust from the Ark Review.

    Z
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    Post  Cassy7 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:57 am

    zerdini wrote:There is an interesting interview with him on there in which he describes how direct voice mediumship began. 

    Carole x


    I sat with Leslie Flint on a regular basis for over ten years and can assure you the Wiki article is a load of rubbish.

    The actual interview was conducted by me and was copied by the LF Trust from the Ark Review.

    Z

    Thanks Zerdini, and wow!  Can you tell us more about your experiences of direct voice mediumship?

    Carole

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    Post  zerdini on Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:13 am

    Hi Carole

    Have a look at my website:

    www.zerdinisworld.com

    Kind regards

    Zerdini

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    Post  spiritone* on Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:55 pm

    zerdini wrote:Hi Carole

    Have a look at my website:

    www.zerdinisworld.com

    Kind regards

    Zerdini

     Thank you Zerdini, I really enjoyed reading this article. I have heard of the Fox sisters but reading about them and all they were able to do was amazing. I am still reading on the other mediums on the page!:ghug:
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    Post  RavenMoon on Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:00 am

    Just curiosity really, but why do they conduct it in the dark?? - often wondered as the occasional time I have mistakenly switched over to that awful programme "most Haunted", why is it always done in the dark? lol  spirit appear in all conditions.:scratch:

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    Post  zerdini on Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:45 pm

    Hi RavenMoon

    Genuine séances e.g. materialisation are usually held in some form of lighting so that people can SEE what is happening.

    Direct Voice séances which are held in the dark do not require one to see anything.

    It is the evidence given in conversations between the incarnate and the discarnate which establish the identity of the communicator.
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    Post  RavenMoon on Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:16 pm

    Many thanks to you Zerdini for the explanation... :flo:

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    Post  zerdini on Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:19 pm

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