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    Spiritualism not what it used to be?

    Post  Violet on Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:25 pm

    Does anyone else think that Spiritualism seems to be more cliquey, more about power in high places (earthly places that is) and generally far less about Spiritualism than it used to be, I've not visited a church in a long time but i've heard some stories from people who do visit regularly but are becoming increasingly disheartened with it.



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    Post  1antique on Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:31 pm

    Religion is religion, no matter what the name. Once people discover there is money or power to be gained from it, it begins a rapid decline.
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    Post  feather on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:54 am

    I think that sometimes what seems to be a higher chakra belief or activity...can actually have its energy foundation in the lower chakras. What seems like love and spiritually purity can actually come from personal need.
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:18 pm

    Violet wrote:Does anyone else think that Spiritualism seems to be more cliquey, more about power in high places (earthly places that is) and generally far less about Spiritualism than it used to be, I've not visited a church in a long time but i've heard some stories from people who do visit regularly but are becoming increasingly disheartened with it.


    I'm with you there,Violet.    Once a quiet subject to be discussed,Spiritualism is now an ongoing business on how much money can be made from it.
    Many have filled their coffers with a small fortune from the giving of messages.    I understand that they may have travelling expenses etc.
    But don't you think that messages from the spirit world themselves should be free?
    They are usually messages of love which come to us but why should those messages be charged for?
    I don't mind giving to the 'plate' which is passed around after a service in a spiritualist church but it is now becoming a farce.

    Also the 'day events' which are advertised like lunch included and a medium who gives demonstrations of his gift.
    Surely those demonstrations should be given free?    Giving proof of an afterlife.   Did Jesus charge for his miracles?


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    Post  Arbel on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:46 pm

    I am in agreement with every one and it was brought to my attention a number of years ago that if it was the only way to make money to live on then it is alright; but for those who abuse the gifts of spirit there is a price to pay



     

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    Post  SpiritVoices on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:49 pm

    Arbel wrote:I am in agreement with every one and it was brought to my attention a number of years ago that if it was the only way to make money to live on then it is alright; but for those who abuse the gifts of spirit there is a price to pay



     

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    Post  QuietCypher on Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:54 pm

    Violet wrote:Does anyone else think that Spiritualism seems to be more cliquey, more about power in high places (earthly places that is) and generally far less about Spiritualism than it used to be, I've not visited a church in a long time but i've heard some stories from people who do visit regularly but are becoming increasingly disheartened with it.
    I don't think spiritualism has changed, but religions change all of the time which has very little to do with spirituality.

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    Post  mac on Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:04 pm

    QuietCypher wrote:
    I don't think spiritualism has changed, but religions change all of the time which has very little to do with spirituality.
    Spiritualism, the religion and philosophy, isn't the same as spiritualism (to do with being spiritual) or spirituality.  It's a common misunderstanding....
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    Post  QuietCypher on Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:58 pm

    mac wrote:
    QuietCypher wrote:
    I don't think spiritualism has changed, but religions change all of the time which has very little to do with spirituality.
    Spiritualism, the religion and philosophy, isn't the same as spiritualism (to do with being spiritual) or spirituality.  It's a common misunderstanding....
    Yes, I believe that's what I said too. :bump:
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    Post  psychoslice on Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:16 am

    In some ways I see religion mainly Christianity changing for the better, years ago we had to sit up strait in very uncomfortable sits, there was no laughing allowed as this was seen as disrespecting god. Now we have people showing their feelings, singing and clapping and sometimes dancing, the old way is falling away, religion had to change so we all can be free to truly express our inner spiritual excitement, Oh yea.  :stars:

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    Post  mac on Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:48 am

    QuietCypher wrote:
    mac wrote:
    QuietCypher wrote:
    I don't think spiritualism has changed, but religions change all of the time which has very little to do with spirituality.
    Spiritualism, the religion and philosophy, isn't the same as spiritualism (to do with being spiritual) or spirituality.  It's a common misunderstanding....
    Yes, I believe that's what I said too. :bump:
     I don't believe you did....
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    Post  QuietCypher on Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:37 pm

    mac wrote:
    QuietCypher wrote:
    mac wrote:
    QuietCypher wrote:
    I don't think spiritualism has changed, but religions change all of the time which has very little to do with spirituality.
    Spiritualism, the religion and philosophy, isn't the same as spiritualism (to do with being spiritual) or spirituality.  It's a common misunderstanding....
    Yes, I believe that's what I said too. :bump:
     I don't believe you did....
    I will just say that I agree with you. :)

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    Post  Guest on Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:43 pm

    I view spirituality very different than most....I thank my three wise women who come into my dreams are to blame!! :blush:

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    Post  frisky fox on Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:54 pm

    It has been said that if it were three wise women who followed the star, instead of the well known, three wise men .... things would be different :astar: 

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    Post  Guest on Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:02 pm

    What a coincidence...!

    Did you know the star that they were following was "propelled"?
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:24 pm

    frisky fox wrote:It has been said that if it were three wise women who followed the star, instead of the well known, three wise men .... things would be different  :astar: 
    I'm inclined to agree with you,Frisky......A lot different.....:happy:

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    Post  frisky fox on Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:48 pm

    Mr.Whitmore wrote:What a coincidence...!

    Did you know the star that they were following was "propelled"?
    propelled ? as in a shooting star ?

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