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    The Pope Retiring

    Post  Assumpta on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:57 pm

    I expect like me a lot of you were surprised to hear this news today.
    What are your views on this I would love to know!

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    Post  SpiritVoices on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:07 pm

    Just been reading the news on it,Maureen.
    Ill health apparently. My curiosity is....why do they not chose slightly younger men ?
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    Post  gilly on Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:17 pm

    Hello Joannie
    I have been watching the footage of when he became Pope in 2005--he was a very healthy young looking man back then. He looks old and tired today--such a change in 7/8 years.
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:58 pm

    gilly wrote:Hello Joannie
    I have been watching the footage of when he became Pope in 2005--he was a very healthy young looking man back then. He looks old and tired today--such a change in 7/8 years.
    Peter

    Yes,I remember seeing him then,Peter. How much younger he looked or maybe not younger but more full of life. I can imagine just how much pressure must be put upon such an important person.
    Much like our royality. But I do feel there is more than tiredness....I feel serious illness.

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    Post  Assumpta on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:23 pm

    Yes, I agree Joan. But at least he's realised that he just can't do it anymore and I admire him for that. I expect it took a lot of serious thought on his part. I wonder what will happen to him, will he retire to a monastery do you think, and when he passes will he get a Pope's funeral? Would love to know the answers to those questions!!!

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    Post  SpiritVoices on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:00 pm

    You read my thoughts,Maureen....was thinking the same things after watching the news.
    Poor old man,I feel for him.
    Whatever title he has,he is still human like the rest of us.

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    Post  Violet on Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:04 am

    I've never understood why they choose older men either, perhaps it's something to do with respect, wisdom, experience or simply tradition? Sorry to hear he's ill though.



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    Post  mac on Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:18 am

    Violet wrote:I've never understood why they choose older men either, perhaps it's something to do with respect, wisdom, experience or simply tradition? Sorry to hear he's ill though.

    Maybe they just don't want anyone younger so they're not stuck with someone for several decades....? And at 85 how many individuals could keep meeting the demands of a job like that anyway? As a human he deserves a break.

    I'm pleased the business has no significance in my life.
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    Post  Assumpta on Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:15 pm

    I personally would love to see someone in their 60's get the job.

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    Post  1antique on Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:14 pm

    I am sure that the pressures of the job have gotten to him....especially with the scandals of the multitude of pedophiles within the ranks of the clergy and the coverups by their superiors. Then, to add on all the lawsuits involved, it must have taken one heck of a toll.........
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:37 pm

    Agree there,1antique. I am not quite sure about any priesthood,how religion works in assessing the higher posts of the church.

    I would say that the Church of England moves in the same way.
    Most 'higher-ups' are a good age when they reach that elevated position.
    I have never seen a young priest yet to succeed into the position of, for instance, an Archbishop etc.
    I assume it must take several years to 'climb the ladder'.

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    Post  mac on Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:50 pm

    As a Spiritualist I don't much concern myself with mainstream religions but one can't fail to be shocked at the number of kiddy-fiddlers - predominantly if not exclusively males-on-males as these are male-dominated religions - there are in certain religious organisations.

    The mainstream churches have yet to effectively deal with the predators in their midst, often recognised as such. Thank whatever god you need to that Spiritualist churches aren't so afflicted.

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    Post  SpiritVoices on Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:58 pm

    Agree with what you've said,Mac.

    Somehow I've never connected or even thought about the spiritualist churches in that particular vein.
    It never even entered my mind.

    But it does go on in quite a few churches of different religions beside the Catholic churches.

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    Post  1antique on Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:49 pm

    The positions of leadership in the church are highly political positions....very little to do with religion, but much to do with enforcing the outdated views of the church and punishing those priests who are more progressive.

    Maybe it is time for the catholic church to come out of the dark ages and join the rest of the world?

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    Post  mac on Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:02 pm

    1antique wrote:The positions of leadership in the church are highly political positions....very little to do with religion, but much to do with enforcing the outdated views of the church and punishing those priests who are more progressive.

    Maybe it is time for the catholic church to come out of the dark ages and join the rest of the world?

    What would the church gain by doing that? If it didn't promise to bring in new members and new money, why would it want the hassle of changing anything? for the sake of truth and enlightenment? yeah, right!
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:01 pm

    1antique wrote:The positions of leadership in the church are highly political positions....very little to do with religion, but much to do with enforcing the outdated views of the church and punishing those priests who are more progressive.

    Maybe it is time for the catholic church to come out of the dark ages and join the rest of the world?

    Full agreement there,1antique.

    I always respect other's religion as I do my own.
    I was brought up Church of England,was christened and married there,both times.

    But I notice that both churches are now becoming very much the same.
    I do try and respect others religion and would never deliberately pour any scorn on what others believe in.

    This poor old man,I truly feel sorry for and respect his decision for retiring because of ill health.
    At least he is honest and if he feels he cannot carry on so be it.
    When old age strikes,the body becomes weak and tired. That's the time to give in and rest.

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    Post  gilly on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:25 pm

    Mac
    We have not always seen eye to eye!
    But on this one I am in FULL agreement with you.
    The main stream religeons have had there day--may I say 'chance'-they have failed!
    Spritualism is all that is left and will be the way/path of future generations!
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:35 pm

    I would like to add something more to this topic of the pope's retirement.

    I was sent some information yesterday by a friend. This information was forwarded to him by one of his friends.
    The reason behind the pope's sudden retirement.
    Apparently all will be revealed after his retirement.

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    Post  gilly on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:17 pm

    INTRIGUING Joannie--will await with anticipation
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:39 am

    I'm looking forward with anticipation on what comes out if anything,Peter.


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    Post  psychoslice on Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:35 am

    It all means nothing to me, I'm not even a catholic, but for someone who sticks their nose into other peoples lives, such as their sex life, we certainly can do without.
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:17 am

    When it involves children,yes,there should be an investigation.
    It is happening too much these days through all religions.
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Tue May 27, 2014 9:34 pm

    I love it! Religion is not what it used to be....religious! lol
    There's more gossip and interest in what goes on any church today.
    Never mind the gossip about what goes on with stars today....it's more exciting with the church!



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    Post  Assumpta on Thu May 29, 2014 7:21 pm

    I think there has always been gossip and that with the church, and I will admit not all of it nice.  


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