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    God does not exist

    Post  skfarblum on Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:09 am

    To me God does not exist;God is what is real.
    Existence is temporary.What is real is where the
    "I" has its roots.This means each one off us is
    god.Can the god of me be known?
    No.Existence can be known;what is real just is.
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    Post  mia on Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:54 am

    To me, god is the spark of life.
    Like we need air to breathe, we need this energy too.
    So, yes god is in us all.
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    Post  skfarblum on Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:16 am

    Dear Mia,
    Thank you for your comment.
    I certainly agree with you.
    God is our spark of life.
    Have a nice day
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    Post  shayn on Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:12 am

    skfarblum wrote:To me God does not exist;God is what is real.
    Existence is temporary.What is real is where the
    "I" has its roots.This means each one off us is
    god.Can the god of me be known?
    No.Existence can be known;what is real just is.
    skfarblum

    so basically what you are saying is that Existence and Reality are not one and the same but 2 different things. ok.


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    Post  skfarblum on Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:30 pm

    Dear Shayn,
    No I don't see that Existence and The Real as truly separate.
    Water is H2O.Yet it can be steam,liquid or solid.It still is H20.
    the same applies to Existence and Real.
    What is Real is like H20.It also can be steam(spirit),liquid(mind)and ice(existence)
    Does this help?

    skfarblum

    P.S The water idea come from "Abu Talks"
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:01 am

    Hi Sk.

    I love these interesting posts,keep it up.

    This like opposites,isn't it?

    A postive and a negative.
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    Post  skfarblum on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:32 am

    Hi Joanie,

    No not really.I will use water again to explain how I see things

    There is a dam filled with water.The water is not going anywhere.It is passive;just is.


    This for me is "I".It is now, in the sense it is timeless and constant.It is my

    very being (god within me, or the real within me or the spirit part of me)

    It is not my body,brain or personality

    Now the sluice gates are opened and the water now becomes a river.This river

    passes through gorges and over cliffs , develops rapids and whirlpools.

    Thus it moves and does things;it is ever in motion and ever different.

    As it is said one can never swim in the same river twice.It is however

    still water.This is, being which is becoming..Life if one likes.

    No opposites,just that "I" busy becoming an indivdual with a mind and personality


    and responding to the world in its own unique way.
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:30 pm

    Once the sluice gates are opened,the water moves swiftly.

    Gathering all life in it's wake.

    New places,new spaces,new life.

    All that is familiar to us moves back to take in new territory.

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    Post  skfarblum on Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:58 pm

    very nice Joanie
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:41 pm

    I am not usually a philosophical person but tend to look for cold hard facts.

    But I do try.

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    Post  Sapienza on Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:48 am

    For me there are only two things that are "real": consciousness and the experiences that consciousness have and God is the source of consciousness so God is the only thing that actually exist.
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    Post  skfarblum on Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:12 am

    Dear Sapienza,
    Thats sounds very nice.
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:48 am

    skfarblum wrote:To me God does not exist;God is what is real.
    Existence is temporary.What is real is where the
    "I" has its roots.This means each one off us is
    god.Can the god of me be known?
    No.Existence can be known;what is real just is.
    skfarblum

    Morning Stephen.

    I've come back to your original post,Steve.

    If God does not exist then who rules the universe?

    I,myself think there is a celestial ruling over all that exists in our universe.

    We are the 'celestion' ruling.

    We rule our own lives,that's why mistakes are made in each life.

    We learn through our mistakes improving our lives or life until all is perfect,then return to the Celestion ruling.

    I would like to know exactly where the name 'God' came from.



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    Post  Detlef on Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:45 am

    skfarblum wrote:To me God does not exist;God is what is real.
    Existence is temporary.What is real is where the
    "I" has its roots.This means each one off us is
    god.Can the god of me be known?
    No.Existence can be known;what is real just is.
    skfarblum

    Once you let go of enough attachments, you will find, it matters very little if a god or God exists. Just look inside and you know who and what you are. That you are one with all that is. That you are part of all that is. You can call yourself God, or god if you like, but most likely you will not.
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    Post  skfarblum on Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:11 pm

    Hi Joan,
    My original statement represents a thinking at that point in time.
    I do admit to regularly changing my ideas.So I give you my
    revised edition.

    My understanding of God is similar to the "Great Spirit" of Silver Birch.I however see a deeper,unknowable depth to
    Great Spirit which is unknowable by finite sentients.This unknowingness is what is "centered everywhere but if looked for is not to be found"
    There is I theorise a knowable aspect of Great Spirit or Creator .Which ,through His activity brings up creation.Creation with its laws and
    limitations are sustained by Great Spirit in both his knowable and unknowable activity.
    I rather think of Great Spirit in terms of knowingness and unknowingness rather than as a finite or infinite of some sort.
    To say Great Spirit exists is to imply somehow a finite like myself could somehow know Great Spirit.

    I see it the other way round.Great Spirit knows me therefore my knowing is really Great Spirits knowing.I can say "I am" only because
    Great Spirit permeates and sustains every aspect of myself by His activity.Nevertheless Great Spirit on purpose
    limits His knowingness, that allows me a certain freedom to grow,learn and create originally.

    I use the word "His" only because Great Spirit is not an "It"You can name Great Spirit "Her" just as well.Probably with even greater
    justification.
    How does all this strike you?
    Yes,all angels,gods ,spirits exist in knowingness.There is no existence in unknowingness.Unknowingness
    is as it is Unknowingness.


    A quick google search gave me this


    "GOD - The English word God is identical with the
    Anglo-Saxon word for “good,” and therefore it is believed that the name God
    refers to the divine goodness. (See Oehler's Theol. of Old Test.; Strong's and
    Young's concordances.) (From New
    Unger's Bible Dictionary) (Originally
    published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois.
    Copyright (C) 1988.)"
    Stephen
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    Post  skfarblum on Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:22 pm

    Dear Detief,
    I respect your words and view point.I admit I am far
    too attached to my body and my wants.I do , do my best to realize
    what you wrote.But it is like growing up.When it happens
    I am not sure I will be able to say now I am a grown up.
    I still feel I am child in so many ways and I am 67 years old.
    Still a really big thank you for your kind effort.
    Stephen
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    Post  Detlef on Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:46 pm

    Dear Stephen,

    Can we ever "grow up", difficult to say, even if I ask parts of myself who are far beyond the level we are in at the moment.
    There is always an other level.
    Not to worry, you are doing fine.
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    Post  skfarblum on Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:19 pm

    Dear Detief,
    Thank you
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:31 pm

    skfarblum wrote:Hi Joan,
    My original statement represents a thinking at that point in time.
    I do admit to regularly changing my ideas.So I give you my
    revised edition.

    My understanding of God is similar to the "Great Spirit" of Silver Birch.I however see a deeper,unknowable depth to
    Great Spirit which is unknowable by finite sentients.This unknowingness is what is "centered everywhere but if looked for is not to be found"
    There is I theorise a knowable aspect of Great Spirit or Creator .Which ,through His activity brings up creation.Creation with its laws and
    limitations are sustained by Great Spirit in both his knowable and unknowable activity.
    I rather think of Great Spirit in terms of knowingness and unknowingness rather than as a finite or infinite of some sort.
    To say Great Spirit exists is to imply somehow a finite like myself could somehow know Great Spirit.

    I see it the other way round.Great Spirit knows me therefore my knowing is really Great Spirits knowing.I can say "I am" only because
    Great Spirit permeates and sustains every aspect of myself by His activity.Nevertheless Great Spirit on purpose
    limits His knowingness, that allows me a certain freedom to grow,learn and create originally.

    I use the word "His" only because Great Spirit is not an "It"You can name Great Spirit "Her" just as well.Probably with even greater
    justification.
    How does all this strike you?
    Yes,all angels,gods ,spirits exist in knowingness.There is no existence in unknowingness.Unknowingness
    is as it is Unknowingness.


    A quick google search gave me this


    "GOD - The English word God is identical with the
    Anglo-Saxon word for “good,” and therefore it is believed that the name God
    refers to the divine goodness. (See Oehler's Theol. of Old Test.; Strong's and
    Young's concordances.) (From New
    Unger's Bible Dictionary) (Originally
    published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois.
    Copyright (C) 1988.)"
    Stephen



    You have beaten me to it there,Stephen.

    I never knew where the name God originated.

    Good sounds a good name for God.

    What I cannot understand is God or Great Spirit is revered not only here but in the spirit world as well.

    Yet we are told there is no set religion in spirit.

    So I presume,we do not have to worship any 'God' or 'Great Spirit' at all.

    I understand the 'I' you talking about,Stephen.

    There is only one 'I' and that is each individual person.

    Each to his or her own belief's.

    Everyone should be entitled to their own beliefs.

    Too many wars over religion,why can't the world understand that each nation is entitled to what they hold dear to.

    There would no more wars.

    I do agree with you that God withholds his knowledge so we can only learn through our own efforts.

    Like a child in school.

    As we learn,so we grow.

    Thanks Stephen,a great topic.



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    Post  SpiritVoices on Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:17 pm

    I often try to imagine what God would look like if we could 'see' him or even 'her'

    How would you see God?

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    Post  SpiritVoices on Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:09 pm

    A lovely description of God....though I do feel sometimes when we need him/her he is not always available....
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    sorta rude

    Post  psychicwiccan on Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:46 pm

    hey while i don't believe in god either i do believe in a goddess but there are some people on here that do believe and you might offend them with this post. my family is christian i love every one and respect every religioun and peoples beliefs. light and love blessed be. .

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