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    Native American Indians

    Post  Violet on Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:32 am

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    Are noted for their spirituality, many people have Native American Indian spirit guides, i'm researching this vast subject at the moment and hope to post some information here for you soon but for starters I was fascinated to read of certain Indians 'turning into arrows' and 'travelling,' sometimes for great distances, naturally I know they didn't literally morph into arrows but is this their way of remote viewing or astral travel, what are your thoughts on this or anything else you may have read or heard about their spiritual beliefs/practices?



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    Post  Seekerofsolace on Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:16 pm

    I am slowly trying to learn about Native American culture.  It is just fascinating to me.  Maybe it is because some of my ancient relatives were Cherokee :D.  A few drops of Native blood is all I can really claim though.  I am just a white guy who's heart would like to be Native :).  Hi Wisa'ka been looking for you, was a fan of your posts on the "other" forum.  I would like to learn all I can from the Indian elders here.  I am not looking to be a "wannabe" or copy Native religions, but I want to find my own medicine.
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    Post  Thunder Bow on Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:24 pm

    Seekerofsolace wrote:I am slowly trying to learn about Native American culture.  It is just fascinating to me.  Maybe it is because some of my ancient relatives were Cherokee :D.  A few drops of Native blood is all I can really claim though.  I am just a white guy who's heart would like to be Native :).  Hi Wisa'ka been looking for you, was a fan of your posts on the "other" forum.  I would like to learn all I can from the Indian elders here.  I am not looking to be a "wannabe" or copy Native religions, but I want to find my own medicine.
    Welcome. Feel free to talk to me in private E. mail, for you have my address. It is not about blood quota. It is all learned. You see, I even have to teach my people to be "Indian" lol Give Hi Wisa'ka my E. Mail address and tell him I moved over to here.

    We can continue our discussion of the Vision Quest and Medicine Wheel here.
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    Post  Thunder Bow on Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:41 pm

    avianscepter wrote:I am part native but I think of them as country folk.  I do not claim it either because I lived in the city all my life and it is a popular city in America.  I think it is a spit in the face to uncle Sam.  I visited the Pueblo grounds in Arizona.  It was an ancient colony.  It looks like a cool pit in the ground with water below.  I also saw a elk or something staring at me and my lover hiding in some shubbery at the end of the small hike.
    Was your "Lover" chewing on the shrubbery? Did you go for a swim?
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    Post  Wisa'ka on Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:12 pm

    "I am slowly trying to learn about Native American culture.  It is just fascinating to me.  Maybe it is because some of my ancient relatives were Cherokee :D.  A few drops of Native blood is all I can really claim though.  I am just a white guy who's heart would like to be Native :).  Hi Wisa'ka been looking for you, was a fan of your posts on the "other" forum.  I would like to learn all I can from the Indian elders here.  I am not looking to be a "wannabe" or copy Native religions, but I want to find my own medicine"


    Are you certain you want my input? 


    I don't want to see you at odds with the other members here for conversing with me.

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    Post  mac on Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:42 am

    Wisa'ka wrote:"I am slowly trying to learn about Native American culture.  It is just fascinating t.....................osts on the "other" forum.  I would like to learn all I can from the Indian elders here.  I am not looking to be a "wannabe" or copy Native religions, but I want to find my own medicine"


    Are you certain you want my input?  I don't want to see you at odds with the other members here for conversing with me.

    Members shouldn't ever be at odds for speaking with other members so why would conversing with you cause other members a problem?  

    Members who've been around here in the longer term, however, may remember your intolerance and anger over certain topics which might again become divisive.
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    Post  OpalMoon on Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:33 am

    I am Cherokee/Italian. I would love to know more about my heritage.  :astar:   :flo:  My mother was Italian and my father Cherokee. I was adopted and not raised knowing about my heritage until later in life.   
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    Post  Wisa'ka on Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:21 pm

    mac wrote:
    Wisa'ka wrote:"I am slowly trying to learn about Native American culture.  It is just fascinating t.....................osts on the "other" forum.  I would like to learn all I can from the Indian elders here.  I am not looking to be a "wannabe" or copy Native religions, but I want to find my own medicine"


    Are you certain you want my input?  I don't want to see you at odds with the other members here for conversing with me.

    Members shouldn't ever be at odds for speaking with other members so why would conversing with you cause other members a problem?  

    Members who've been around here in the longer term, however, may remember your intolerance and anger over certain topics which might again become divisive.

    Get bent, mac. My reply wasn't to you, so mind your own business

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    Post  mac on Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:38 am

    Wisa'ka wrote:
    mac wrote:
    Wisa'ka wrote:"I am slowly trying to learn about Native American culture.  It is just fascinating t.....................osts on the "other" forum.  I would like to learn all I can from the Indian elders here.  I am not looking to be a "wannabe" or copy Native religions, but I want to find my own medicine"


    Are you certain you want my input?  I don't want to see you at odds with the other members here for conversing with me.

    Members shouldn't ever be at odds for speaking with other members so why would conversing with you cause other members a problem?  

    Members who've been around here in the longer term, however, may remember your intolerance and anger over certain topics which might again become divisive.

    Get bent, mac. My reply wasn't to you, so mind your own business

    Ah you made it back eventually and read what I wrote. 

    It's not relevant to whom your reply was made and you can not dictate about what subject - and to which member - I may respond. 

    Don't agree with the points I made earlier?  Factually incorrect were they? 

    I think not.....
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:56 pm

    I have a friend on another site who married a Native American.
    They were very much in love and she lost him to the injuries he suffered through the Vietnam war.  

    She had a dreadful time trying to claim a war pension from his time in the army.   I cannot relate more on here,because it is confidential.

    But she did manage at least to get a gravestone put on his grave!

    She is not Native American but still lives on the reservation....
    ...and proud to do so!
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    Post  Thunder Bow on Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:37 pm

    What great Nation in AZ? There are more than one.
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:16 pm

    avianscepter wrote:Thank you Spiritvoices for telling your story.  It helps me out but I think negative of it.  I am NOT a part of the great nation in Arizona and my father died with papers on hand that proved that my grandmother was full native.  I don't care.  I whisper it because the wind carries many secrets I don't .....care  ... I want a honey scone.. no no .... I don't care..............................shhhhh....... shhhhh...... did you hear it country folk..... shhhhhh........................................the raven................shhh...........................shhhh....................................

    Spritvoices, for friend's lover was adopted into the tribe if it was a tribal marriage............. that is probably why no collection may not be possible.................if it was military then it can cross over as a pension would............... shhhhh.....................................shhhh.............................
    She had a lot of problems...First she was told there were no records of him ever being in the army,she took it further and a little success.
    As I said she managed to get a pension...I think!   And the gravestone....
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    Post  Wisa'ka on Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:23 pm

    "Ah you made it back eventually and read what I wrote.  

    It's not relevant to whom your reply was made and you can not dictate about what subject - and to which member - I may respond.  

    Don't agree with the points I made earlier?  Factually incorrect were they?  

    I think not....."


    To me this is not a competition to best anyone. 


    Here at a community where I am not even allowed to post on my own "diary" thread, the sense of disdain is quite evident. It is what it is. Surely upon my arrival here some time ago, if I would of gone along with the new age interpretation of what is called "Native American Spirituality"everything probably would of been just peachy, but that interpretation is not what I or many other indigenous people see as being factual. Being accepted by the people here is not worth playing into falsehoods.


    Being punished for being traditional is not new.

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    Post  mac on Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:10 pm

    Wisa'ka wrote:"Ah you made it back eventually and read what I wrote.  

    It's not relevant to whom your reply was made and you can not dictate about what subject - and to which member - I may respond.  

    Don't agree with the points I made earlier?  Factually incorrect were they?  

    I think not....."


    To me this is not a competition to best anyone. 


    Here at a community where I am not even allowed to post on my own "diary" thread, the sense of disdain is quite evident. It is what it is. Surely upon my arrival here some time ago, if I would of gone along with the new age interpretation of what is called "Native American Spirituality"everything probably would of been just peachy, but that interpretation is not what I or many other indigenous people see as being factual. Being accepted by the people here is not worth playing into falsehoods.


    Being punished for being traditional is not new.
    Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose... 
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:01 pm

    avianscepter wrote:Thank you Spiritvoices for telling your story.  It helps me out but I think negative of it.  I am NOT a part of the great nation in Arizona and my father died with papers on hand that proved that my grandmother was full native.  I don't care.  I whisper it because the wind carries many secrets I don't .....care  ... I want a honey scone.. no no .... I don't care..............................shhhhh....... shhhhh...... did you hear it country folk..... shhhhhh........................................the raven................shhh...........................shhhh....................................

    Spritvoices, for friend's lover was adopted into the tribe if it was a tribal marriage............. that is probably why no collection may not be possible.................if it was military then it can cross over as a pension would............... shhhhh.....................................shhhh.............................
    Puts her finger to her lips.... :thanku:
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    Post  mac on Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:03 pm

    avianscepter wrote:I can not speak for them, but I think there is this strange image of natives from the reservations.  They probably think you all wear ceremonial stuff all the time.  You know feathers in the hair and saying "How" and doing little hop scotches on the streets.  This is what I do know about some tribe.  They had special missions during World War II with a special com language that the axis could not decipher because of its base of nature.  I believe they integrated in too because they wanted to know how they got that language out.
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    Post  Violet on Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:35 pm

    wisa ka who told you you couldnt have your own thread?



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    Post  Wisa'ka on Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:04 am

    Violet wrote:wisa ka who told you you couldnt have your own thread?


    "I'm locking this down and may temporarily remove it one I know the OP has read this notice, things are getting heated here this is not the way of this forum and I need time to study everything"


    Oh you mean temporarily in the same way the English told the people of Tsenacommacah when asked how long they were staying on what is now called Jamestown Island?


    It's alright Violet, some of us know a little how the Yengeese operate.

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    Post  mac on Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:05 am

    What a sourpuss - wonder why this member bothers to visit even on the odd occasion he does?
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    Post  Wisa'ka on Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:00 am

    mac wrote:What a sourpuss - wonder why this member bothers to visit even on the odd occasion he does?

    Odd occasion izzz?

    And this from one who first saw the light of day after plopping out of a sourpuss. Did the doctor slap you on the arse or bean your already misshapen head with a ball pein hammer?

    Happy spring macster.

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    Post  mac on Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:04 am

    Wisa'ka wrote:
    mac wrote:What a sourpuss - wonder why this member bothers to visit even on the odd occasion he does?

    Odd occasion izzz?

    And this from one who first saw the light of day after plopping out of a sourpuss. Did the doctor slap you on the arse or bean your already misshapen head with a ball pein hammer?

    Happy spring macster.
    Oh you little jester!   You are on form this Easter season!  Oh, sorry, injuns don't do Easter....   :love:   :happy:




    "bean my already misshapen head" you ask...?  "bean"?




     Is 'bean' an NDN verb then?   :happy:
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    Post  Wisa'ka on Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:40 pm

    Are you digging on the lingo, mac?

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