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    jasdir
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    Belief and faith,

    Post  jasdir on Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:56 am

    "Belief comes from the head, faith comes from the heart. Beliefs and belief systems are products of the conscious intellect; faith, as I am using the word, is a knowing of the heart which supersedes belief of the mind. Belief systems require evidence be found in sensory (material) reality while faith transcends material reality and can transport the knower into her or his experience of the Great Inner Silence, a state which cannot be described with words. Belief leads to arguments requiring “proofs” resting on “logic” and “theology” to satisfy the conscious intellect while faith leads to a fellowship of an unspoken knowing.
    Most people use the words faith and belief interchangeable, or, perhaps, use faith to refer only to their religious beliefs—or the trust they put in something other than the Spirit within them. We are conditioned from birth to trust authorities and things outside ourselves, such as scriptures, religious leaders and other authority figures, rather than our own Inner Voice. So, as we learn and grow, we accumulate various behaviors and habits of deferring to authorities other than ourselves, that is, other than our own Inner Truth.
    When the authority is a law enforcement officer directing traffic around an automobile accident, this deference is a sensible and practical. But it is not practical or healthy to defer to any authority outside of the Spirit within us to govern our lives or guide our spiritual paths."
    By: Meister Eckhart (c. 1260 - 1328),
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    Re: Belief and faith,

    Post  sparkly on Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:18 am



    quite right jasdir.

    me loves meister eckhart. :ghug: :ghug:

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    Re: Belief and faith,

    Post  The Myth on Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:28 am

    Both are an excuse for having to die.

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    Re: Belief and faith,

    Post  mac on Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:05 am

    The Myth wrote:Both are an excuse for having to die.

    So if they weren't used as an excuse we wouldn't have to die?

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    Re: Belief and faith,

    Post  The Myth on Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:39 am

    mac wrote:
    The Myth wrote:Both are an excuse for having to die.

    So if they weren't used as an excuse we wouldn't have to die?

    SHIDAD

    Your going to die belief or faith aside! So whats so hard to understand about that? You can have all the belief and faith you want but it will not stop you from dying!

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    Re: Belief and faith,

    Post  mac on Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:16 pm

    The Myth wrote:
    mac wrote:
    The Myth wrote:Both are an excuse for having to die.

    So if they weren't used as an excuse we wouldn't have to die?

    SHIDAD

    Your going to die belief or faith aside! So whats so hard to understand about that? You can have all the belief and faith you want but it will not stop you from dying!

    If you'd said that to begin with I'd've understood from the outset..... But you didn't say that at all!
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