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    Mediums and the police

    Post  Violet on Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:12 am

    I know sometimes certain police will turn to mediums for assistance (not that any would admit it) have any of you assisted the police or know someone who has, and would you help them if they approached you?

    I imagine some mediums might contact the police with information during a murder case I wonder how many are taken seriously.


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    Post  sparkly on Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:04 am

    recently,
    a little girl went missing in sydney, and an aboriginal elder i think, suggested looking in this bush area. they found a woman's torso. i was quite surprised by the matter of fact approach. perhaps this woman is known to them, in a good way.
    my sister is friends with GABRIELLE CROFTS, who told me about some of her work. i got this from one of her sites;


    Gabrielle is one of the top Psychic Detectives in the world today, and stared in the Japanese TV ASAHI crime solving show, "Save Our Souls." Gabrielle specialises in solving cases of missing persons, finding bodies of missing persons, helping to solve murder cases, and psychic profiling of murderers and serial killers. Gabrielle is a proven Psychic Remote Viewer, Psychic Detective, Psychic Profiler, Psychic Crime Solver and Psychic Investigator.

    Gabrielle worked with Perth TV Channel Nine, Live at Five show, on the February 1993, Greenough massacre near Geraldton, Western Australia, and accurately profiled the murderer, and also picked up his name and occupation, relationship to the murder victims, and was able to assist a detective in the Western Australian CIB, who now denies he was assisted by Gabrielle, (meeting him for lunch at the "Heart of the Park" shopping centre in Victoria Park on each occasion), though for what other reason only God alone can know. She had met the detective in Perth on at least 5 occasions to assist him with profiling and advising him on the case. Gabrielle also confided these details to her close trusted friends whom are able to confirm the details all these years later. Gabrielle's husband is also aware of the particular detectives name and subsequent denial of issues.

    Gabrielle was able to pick up that there was a single fingerprint or thumb print which the police initially missed and to go back into the crime site and re do the forensics, which the police then did at her suggestion to Don Hancock, CIB Head, at the time. She was allowed on the site at Greenough with the Channel Nine crew, including Reporter Max Harwood and Mara Pritchard, by special permission of Don Hancock.



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    Post  mac on Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:11 am

    Violet wrote:I know sometimes certain police will turn to mediums for assistance (not that any would admit it) have any of you assisted the police or know someone who has, and would you help them if they approached you?

    I imagine some mediums might contact the police with information during a murder case I wonder how many are taken seriously.

    Are these individuals actually mediums or are they psychics? Yes I know we've been over the medium vs. psychic debate before but in this instance there's an important difference. I've read that police will consult sensitives to see if anything can be picked up but it's rare for there to be publicity about it. The police are naturally cautious about broadcasting their use of psychics so it's similar to the conspiracy theory situation - you won't get to hear much about either the failures or more importantly, the successes.

    I reserve judgement on this business but I am far from convinced that it's the role of discarnates to assist our police forces, however laudable that may appear at first glance. Think about the ramifications concerning freewill if it were to happen.....

    How could it be reconciled if discarnates interfered with events in the physical?
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    Post  Lynn on Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:17 am

    Hello

    I quite often work with the authorities on many a level. Was I accepted the first time I made a call NO. In fact I was totally dismissed and the case went cold for a year.....it was then that a retired officer that took looks into Cold Files found notes on the phone call I had made. He called me and I had a meeting. I had to really PROVE that I was for real. I do not usually GET cases given to me more I sense something if an item flashes on the news ( rarely put it on) and I go from there. Or if a Spirit makes contact with me and I can take it from there at times.

    Sadly the work load can be HUGE. Man does some nasty things. As I get more comfortable being OUT THERE as me....I get more requests to assisst. I do what I can and I too work with other's at times we do not know whom eachother is.....nor does the contact I have now whom I am. Its all done in private....and very well done.

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    Post  Violet on Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:09 am

    Thanks for sharing Sparkly and Lynn fascinating to read.

    Are these individuals actually mediums or are they psychics? Yes I know we've been over the medium vs. psychic debate before but in this instance there's an important difference. I've read that police will consult sensitives to see if anything can be picked up but it's rare for there to be publicity about it. The police are naturally cautious about broadcasting their use of psychics so it's similar to the conspiracy theory situation - you won't get to hear much about either the failures or more importantly, the successes.

    I reserve judgement on this business but I am far from convinced that it's the role of discarnates to assist our police forces, however laudable that may appear at first glance. Think about the ramifications concerning freewill if it were to happen.....

    How could it be reconciled if discarnates interfered with events in the physical?

    Hi Mac, I suppose it depends on what they're helping with, a medium for example, may get the murdered victim through with information, while a psychic may be able to build a profile of sorts of the killer or pick up information from the murder scene.

    I think it's a bit silly of the police to refuse to acknowledge this kind of help, true it may not stand up in court if there is no physical evidence but they may be able to give info which will lead to the discovery of physical evidence of the crime.
    It may not be the role of discarnates to assist the police but it may be the role of the medium or psychic even if they're laughed at and sent away.


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    Re: Mediums and the police

    Post  sparkly on Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:14 am

    potartoes potate- oes. you say tomato.... obviously, if you bothered to look at gabby's site, you will find she has the whole kit and kaboodle. medium, psychic, clair/audient/ voyant..remote viewer a rah di rah rah. the op asked for one i know, and i do. i supplied her address. fact is she helps police, what you call her is a reflection of your own limitation. :giggles:
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:28 pm

    Long time since I heard Psychic information being accepted by the police.

    Are they more hardened now towards information coming from a medium or do they still accept a message from the spirit world?
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    Post  Lynn on Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:42 pm

    Hello

    It all comes down to at times the individual officer or the officer in charge. There are no concrete rules on this aspect. While information obtained can not be used in court it can lead to the final evidence at times being found in the normal pathways.  Where at times we come into play more is with the families where we can help them find closure that things are OK and that they are aware that bad things happen but peace is found in the Light of crossing over. 

    I work mostly on cold cases now.....those that are off the books that are not longer active. This mostly is done by officers that have left the force but still want closure on what they could not solve. I have been blessed to close several of them and bring home remains of the lost family member.  That is the best and worst case for family. It means that they are truly dead but too it means they have something to put to rest.  At times its impossible to find justice so we have to believe in that higher power of Karma that cleanses those that do such things.  

    There are some good things that are coming forwards from what a Medium or Psychic can offer.  Like all things it takes time to get there. 

    The most important thing is to always remember that even though someone is dead they are still a part of the energy of the living.  We have to hold that Light for all knowing that its all a part of experiences in all things we call life.

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    Post  SpiritVoices on Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:23 pm

    Do mediums still contact the police,Lynn?

    Never seem to hear much of it these days or is the information kept quiet until it is proved?

    There is another member on here who has followed the same pattern as yourself,has contacted the police force in the UK. The information she gave was correct but it was ignored.

    The body of a child was discovered later in a lake....where it was forecast by the medium.
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    Post  Lynn on Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:32 pm

    HelloIts a case to case call and how strongly one feels about what information they have and how they can emotionally handle what could well be fall out. Lesson learned by me was that I \"looked" to close to it all with the information I had. it was hard for the police to understand Remote Viewing and Spirits that can take me with them to where they are and show me how they met their end.  It was only when I could "Show" them now it worked with them giving me a case file that was solved but not in the media and I could give information that I was believed.  For me I have found someone that I trust that I can work with anonymously if I need to pass on information.  Its not the norm and it takes a huge leap of faith. The last thing I would want is the news media on my doorstep I have kids.  Too this could well happen and we are prepared for that one.  Closeure is a blessing for a family but its dam hard to know that they are still looking for the living when I know that they are dead.  There is a case that is like that now.....yet I know well I would NOT be accepted in that community with information.  So we send out blessing and energy for completion and peace. LynnSpiritVoices wrote:Do mediums still contact the police,Lynn?

    Never seem to hear much of it these days or is the information kept quiet until it is proved?

    There is another member on here who has followed the same pattern as yourself,has contacted the police force in the UK.   The information she gave was correct but it was ignored.

    The body of a child was discovered later in a lake....where it was forecast by the medium.
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    Post  SpiritVoices on Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:50 pm

    I like that,Lynn....so true!
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    Post  Lynn on Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:34 am

    Hello

    This past Summer I was contacted by a family that had a missing person and her partner.  They had been missing several days with no clues.  I felt that they were living but not going to last if not found.  It was 10 days before they were found.

    I was looked up the area on the map and I found the place I felt they were at.  This was not in the "search area" but it was near water something you DO need to live in the heat we have.  She took this the police and they said we "looked there" nothing.   I again sensed I was right so they told a park ranger and he said he could look again there, but it was a long way from where their trail went dead. 

    Why the trail went dead was the "bear" I say a large Grizzly they had to go off the trail to avoid. The bear was real they saw it.....

    They were found where I said they were going to be. Yet the police said that I had nothing to do with them being found. SO be it.....the family knew I did my work and played a role in them being found.

    More is the Cold Cases that Mediums work on....those that the officer takes with them into retirement that haunt them that I work on.  I have had success in one some 15 years later now her murderer was the taxi driver I told them it was.....but like the law "evidence" is needed for conviction.  He family got that closure but it could have come sooner.  That is life we need evidence to convict.

    At times the work I do is more with families looking for closure and if the case is still open I do have to try and work with the authorities to keep the peace.  I do have a "file number" I can give now when I call in information does not mean it will be used but least I have a connection.

    Its not something they want "out there" we are more like a profiler role as we can not take the stand and say what we see.

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