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    Christian Spiritualism

    Post  Violet on Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:16 am

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    I went to a Christian Spiritualist church once, I felt very uncomfortable, it didn't feel right somehow and far too 'religious' if that makes sense. Anyone else been to one and what were your feelings?



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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  mac on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:14 pm

    I guess that the most obvious answer is that for you it makes no difference but for me it does....

    Spiritualism isn't the SNU and Spiritualism isn't any church organisation - both of those are just the formal, organised, public faces of a philosophy that's fundamental to the way some people live.

    Christian Spiritualism
    is one philosophy and Modern Spiritualism is another. There are significant differences between them which some overlook and others don't. I find one acceptable and the other unacceptable.

    Just as with all matters in life we're each able to assess and reach conclusions about what's right for us personally.




    skylarker wrote:. Joanie,

    I agree with you. What difference does it make? There are all sorts of Spiritualists, just as there are all sorts of Christians, and I assume all sorts of pagans. There are many Christian Spiritualists, whether the SNU likes it or not. The SNU is not the Rome of Spiritualism, even though they apparantly think they are.

    Joanie wrote:Does it really make a difference whatever is displayed in a spiritualism church?

    Unless it is something that is really offensive.

    The point of visiting any spiritualist church is to show belief in spiritualism and receiving proof from loved ones that they do exist.

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  SpiritVoices on Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:07 pm

    'I guess that the most obvious answer is that for you it makes no difference but for me it does....

    Spiritualism isn't the SNU and Spiritualism isn't any church organisation - both of those are just the formal, organised, public faces of a philosophy that's fundamental to the way some people live.


    Christian Spiritualism
    is one philosophy and Modern Spiritualism is another. There are significant differences between them which some overlook and others don't. I find one acceptable and the other unacceptable.

    Just as with all matters in life we're each able to assess and reach conclusions about what's right for us personally.'




    To me,Mac, Spiritualism is Spiritualism,whether old or modern.

    Names are only names. They are the same subject,commuication from spirit.



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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  millergrls on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:23 pm

    I believe in christianity, but I believe that you can believe in god and be a good person without having to believe in god. I believe that there is much more to this universe than just god. Much more. I don't like church because not all but the ones that I have gone to push it on you. They were so extreme that they scared me. And some I noticed are judgemental, they want you to undertand their form of spiritually but will not accept any others. Sometimes they come off as hypocryts. I am not saying that all churches are like this. The ones that I have been toowere. I feel as everyone should practice and believe however they want and be accepted for it not judged. But like I said not all churches are like this.

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  mac on Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:05 pm

    Joanie wrote:'I guess that the most obvious answer is that for you it makes no difference but for me it does....

    Spiritualism isn't the SNU and Spiritualism isn't any church organisation - both of those are just the formal, organised, public faces of a philosophy that's fundamental to the way some people live.


    Christian Spiritualism
    is one philosophy and Modern Spiritualism is another. There are significant differences between them which some overlook and others don't. I find one acceptable and the other unacceptable.

    Just as with all matters in life we're each able to assess and reach conclusions about what's right for us personally.'




    To me,Mac, Spiritualism is Spiritualism,whether old or modern.

    Names are only names. They are the same subject,commuication from spirit.



    Joanie

    "Christian Spiritualism is one philosophy and Modern Spiritualism
    is another. There are significant differences between them which some
    overlook and others don't. I find one acceptable and the other
    unacceptable."
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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  SpiritVoices on Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:07 pm

    Unfortuately Spiritualism is becoming too organised now.

    Same as most religions. A time for this and a time for that.

    Religion should be a natural focus as the giving of messages from spirit should be.



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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  SpiritVoices on Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:08 pm

    mac wrote:
    Joanie wrote:'I guess that the most obvious answer is that for you it makes no difference but for me it does....

    Spiritualism isn't the SNU and Spiritualism isn't any church organisation - both of those are just the formal, organised, public faces of a philosophy that's fundamental to the way some people live.


    Christian Spiritualism
    is one philosophy and Modern Spiritualism is another. There are significant differences between them which some overlook and others don't. I find one acceptable and the other unacceptable.

    Just as with all matters in life we're each able to assess and reach conclusions about what's right for us personally.'




    To me,Mac, Spiritualism is Spiritualism,whether old or modern.

    Names are only names. They are the same subject,commuication from spirit.



    Joanie

    "Christian Spiritualism is one philosophy and Modern Spiritualism
    is another. There are significant differences between them which some
    overlook and others don't. I find one acceptable and the other
    unacceptable."

    I appreciate your opinion,Mac as I hope you appreciate mine.


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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  mac on Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:53 pm

    "I appreciate your opinion,Mac as I hope you appreciate mine."

    On matters of the spirit I don't hold opinions....
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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  skylarker on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:29 pm

    Yes, Joanie. I'm the fellow from the other side of the big Pud Muddle, across the continent on on the Left Coast of the US... formerly Eirefox and Sprite. It seems there must be another Sprite floating about here? Took me forever to think up a new handle. Geeeez.

    Joanie wrote:Hi Skylarker.

    Do I know you?

    A good way of putting it. The subject of spiritualism does tend to become buried

    beneath the pathos of the SNU. I often wonder why spirit do not intervene and do something about this sad case.



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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  gilly on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:18 am

    Hi

    It is sad but true that ALL 'organised' religeons eventually become 'untenable'!

    Spiritualism is a belief in the SPIRIT world that lies beyond this life. We pass on to whatever this spirit world is!

    It is my belief that we are only allowed to know 'so much'! Some of us are 'fortunate' to have some 'contact', some 'insight'!

    BELIEF--OPINION are subject to what is allowed.

    I have witnessed 'GOOD' mediums who have become over confident 'DIEING' on platform!

    Whether Christian. Muslim. Jew. Sikh. Bhudist. or whatever--we bander words!!

    It is the life we lead--it is the way we treat others that is important.

    Some of us 'THINK WE KNOW' those of us who are really on track are those that accept that there is much that we do not know!

    We are here for a purpose--each of us has their 'targets' for want of a better word. We succeed or fail--the important thing at the end of the day is that--'WE HAVE TRIED OUR BEST'!!

    PPLLnL

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  millergrls on Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:04 am

    I like your thoughts Gilly. Do our best and live the best we can while respecting others as much as we can. That is all we can do. No formed religion can tell us how to do that correctly. There are so many how can we know which one is correct. They all say differently. But if we live by our own individual creed and practice what is right for us individually we can't go wrong as long as we live with love, laughter and good intentions within our heart. Treat others and our selfs with rightness and love then we are living the lifes that we are inteneded to live. I am just thankful that there are some who have figured this out. We are the truly happy ones and we are very fortunate.
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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  SpiritVoices on Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:49 am

    That's the spirit...and no pun on words...

    What would the world be like if we all held the same opinion?

    Postively dull.

    This is the way we learn about spiritualism,in our own way,listening to other's opinions and forming our own.

    I appreciate that we do need some form of guidance to help Spiritualism grow but not to feel forced by such as the SNU to follow all their guide lines to what they say we should or must do.

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  mac on Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:17 am

    "First topic message reminder :

    I went to a
    Christian Spiritualist church
    once, I felt very uncomfortable, it didn't
    feel right somehow and far too 'religious' if that makes sense. Anyone
    else been to one and what were your feelings?"

    Just in case you've forgotten what the topic is.....
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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  gilly on Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:02 pm

    mac wrote:"First topic message reminder :

    I went to a
    Christian Spiritualist church
    once, I felt very uncomfortable, it didn't
    feel right somehow and far too 'religious' if that makes sense. Anyone
    else been to one and what were your feelings?"

    Just in case you've forgotten what the topic is.....

    Hi mac

    I think we all are answering the original post in our own ways--A spiritualist church like all the others belongs to a particular religeon and/or creed. We have simply moved on from the specific "church" discussion.

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  SpiritVoices on Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:35 pm

    Most long topics tend to gravitate slightly from the original point.

    But the subject of the topic is always in mind.

    Like lanes leading off the main road,when we have explored the byways of the topic then we return to the main road.

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  mac on Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:01 pm

    "Like lanes leading off the main road,when we have explored the byways of the topic then we return to the main road." Or become hopelessly lost....
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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  SpiritVoices on Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:19 pm

    mac wrote:"Like lanes leading off the main road,when we have explored the byways of the topic then we return to the main road." Or become hopelessly lost....



    You think so,Mac?

    Always found my way home before.



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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  millergrls on Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:29 pm

    Hmmm.....this is what i really love about this forum, we are not always required to take the same path or road, just because someone else deems it so, because every path will lead back to the main road...spirituality. All these discussions are wonderful because the create new paths to discovery. It is a good way to learn from one another. And just like joanie, I am sure that I will always find my way home, even if the path winds and zig zags a bit.
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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  SpiritVoices on Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:06 am

    Like wool bits from a tattered sweater,they drift apart from the main subject.

    (Now I am off topic....apoligies....)

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  gilly on Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:00 am

    Joannie/Mary

    What a wonderful way of describing reality!

    I also have always found my way home!

    PPLLnL dear ladies

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  mac on Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:33 am

    Joanie wrote:
    mac wrote:"Like lanes leading off the main road,when we have explored the byways of the topic then we return to the main road." Or become hopelessly lost....



    You think so,Mac?

    Always found my way home before.


    Quite a change in tone from your original, jokey posting..... Wonder what/who brought that about?

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  mac on Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:43 am

    mac wrote:"Like lanes leading off the main road,when we have explored the byways of the topic then we return to the main road." Or become hopelessly lost....

    I'm known for trying to keep threads on-topic but, hey, no-one else is bothering so why should I? When in Rome....

    My posting was intended as a metaphor for the way that website contributors frequently leave a specific topic ('main road') and wander around ('explore the byways') and forget, or ignore, the original discussion subject. ('become hopelessly lost')

    That's often portrayed as a positive advantage - by those who get hopelessly lost!

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  mac on Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:06 am

    millergrls wrote:Hmmm.....this is what i really love about this forum, we are not always required to take the same path or road, just because someone else deems it so, because every path will lead back to the main road...spirituality. All these discussions are wonderful because the create new paths to discovery. It is a good way to learn from one another. And just like joanie, I am sure that I will always find my way home, even if the path winds and zig zags a bit.

    I do hope you will always find your way home.

    We all have our own approach to learning and Spiritualism NEVER requires anyone to take the same path as someone else. (not sure about Christian Spiritualism, not my field) It's true that discussions may "create new paths to discovery" but the ones which wander off-topic sometimes end up in a dead-end of brambles.

    Some seekers don't mind that but I prefer to choose where I'm going.
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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  SpiritVoices on Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:55 am

    mac wrote:
    Joanie wrote:
    mac wrote:"Like lanes leading off the main road,when we have explored the byways of the topic then we return to the main road." Or become hopelessly lost....



    You think so,Mac?

    Always found my way home before.


    Quite a change in tone from your original, jokey posting..... Wonder what/who brought that about?



    Sometimes one is not sure, especially on forums,whether the previous poster is joking or not.

    So I took the safe route and edited my post.

    (fallen into that trap before,Mac....)

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  QuietCypher on Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:31 pm

    From my observations, there is no such thing as Christian spiritualism: they are two entirely different things. If you want the real thing, try looking into Gnosticism. :)

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    Re: Christian Spiritualism

    Post  Auras on Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:54 pm

    Christian Spiritualist church eh?

    I don't believe it should have the name of any religion. Although, spiritual churches do honour one god.

    On the other hand. Religions are all involved in spirituality.

    Swings both ways.

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