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    Post  Violet on Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:03 am

    A thought occered to me as I replied to Soaring Bird in the hot or cold thread, can energies etc be tranferred amongst healings in the same way that mediumship messages can become 'crossed'?



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    Post  innerlight on Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:10 am

    You mean like picking up someone's impressions, or sending healing energies to the wrong person?

    healing energies are conscious enough to go where they are needed, and never go where they are not. nor can a person receive healing energies without their consent on some level. after all it's an individual's freewill to heal.
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    Post  Violet on Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:14 am

    More like passing one persons symptoms or the feelings of their illness onto another, but with what you just said it wouldn't be possible, or would it don't empaths pick up on others pain?



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    Post  innerlight on Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:17 am

    It's debatable. I have heard that some have passed negativity on to another person. I don't see it likely that an ailment would be passed on. Ones guides would make sure of such things from happening. Plus we are really just channels so we don't really have any say in that.

    Unless you had a malicious healer that was trying to do damage, but even then a guide would step in.
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    Post  Violet on Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:21 am

    Yeah that would make sense



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    Post  innerlight on Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:05 pm

    Bump...

    I have heard of healers taking on the ailments of the person they were healing. But I would say that it would stop there, and they wouldn't be able to pass it on to another person.
    Since the healer is really only a channel they wouldn't be transferring the ailment with them.
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    Post  Violet on Fri May 14, 2010 12:58 am

    innerlight wrote:Bump...

    I have heard of healers taking on the ailments of the person they were healing. But I would say that it would stop there, and they wouldn't be able to pass it on to another person.
    Since the healer is really only a channel they wouldn't be transferring the ailment with them.

    I've heard of this too, and taking on their physical pain to the point it has made them ill.



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    Post  Lynn on Fri May 14, 2010 4:06 am

    Hello

    Yes and yes when one finds that enegy match to self its an amazing connectio one can have. It can go to any area one wants.....but too with trust and respects for the personal boundries one sets up. It is at times a MIND, BODY and SOUL linking so one has to have total and complete trust NO party is hurt. That the rules of where and what one does are clear.
    Its an amazing buzzing or vibration one feels totally and its amazingly healing at times if needed or relazing at other times. Too its to be noted that emotions at times run a bit higer as ye are connecting to the other person.

    I do healings in this way, find blocks in issues long since burried , Astral Travel with someone, or just chill out.

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    Post  Akyana on Fri May 14, 2010 12:07 pm

    innerlight wrote:You mean like picking up someone's impressions, or sending healing energies to the wrong person?

    healing energies are conscious enough to go where they are needed, and never go where they are not. nor can a person receive healing energies without their consent on some level. after all it's an individual's freewill to heal.

    I would like to partially disagree.
    healing energies are conscious enough to go where they are needed
    here you talk about Reiki and Reiki like energy.
    They are said are intelligent and wise to go always right.
    But if you dont use Reiki or similar,
    just healing energy,
    then it listens to your will...no matter if its right or wrong.
    Its basically magick.

    nor can a person receive healing energies without their consent on some level
    if they hate your energy, they its true.
    Otherwise anyone can receive healing energy,
    and thats why its unethical do do it,
    as you never know if they dont want t or need it.

    I cant help myself sometimes to do it kinda,
    though

    Plus we are really just channels so we don't really have any say in that.
    As long as you are really just channel though!
    Many people use personal energy.

    Unless you had a malicious healer that was trying to do damage, but even then a guide would step in.
    not too often though.
    You have also karma police, and others safety instances
    But if witch curses you, you can be in trouble.


    Healing does have things that can go wrong,
    thats why its best to learn it properly and into details, imo.


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    Post  skye on Fri May 14, 2010 12:32 pm

    Violet wrote:
    innerlight wrote:Bump...

    I have heard of healers taking on the ailments of the person they were healing. But I would say that it would stop there, and they wouldn't be able to pass it on to another person.
    Since the healer is really only a channel they wouldn't be transferring the ailment with them.

    I've heard of this too, and taking on their physical pain to the point it has made them ill.
    I wonder when this happens it's because the healer is using their own energy to heal rather than allowing the spirit healers to work through them. Magnetic healing is considered helpful for a short time but if used too often it can mean the healer becomes depleted of energy and can result in themselves becoming ill which is why I assume it's not recommended.
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    Post  Akyana on Fri May 14, 2010 1:39 pm

    When I am in the posting mood...
    I will add my ideas to yours, Skye,k?

    skye wrote:
    I've heard of this too, and taking on their physical pain to the point it has made them ill.
    I wonder when this happens it's because the healer is using their own energy to heal rather than allowing the spirit healers to work through them. Magnetic healing is considered helpful for a short time but if used too often it can mean the healer becomes depleted of energy and can result in themselves becoming ill which is why I assume it's not recommended.
    I wonder when this happens it's because the healer is using their own energy to heal or he wants too much
    -or he has crystal aura, which means extreme empathy
    (I have it, for example)
    Crystal aura changes itself according to the person you are communicating with,
    which means the healer will end up feeling similar to the patient on the end.
    Protective shielding is a must in such a case.

    often it can mean the healer becomes depleted of energy and can result
    in themselves becoming ill which is why I assume it's not recommended

    Yes.
    And also as you can hurt the other pushing your energy into him.
    It might be the "wrong sort" of energy, too much, too whatever
    But you see my point, I believe.
    And also it can create sort of huge spiritual ego type of thing.
    And a big obstacle on the path naturally.



    PS: I am very much into the healing thing, so its very interesting theme for me thank you, Violet!
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    Post  Lynn on Fri May 14, 2010 3:33 pm

    Hello

    Healing is for the good of the giver and the receiver. It should aways be done with repects and yes permissions.

    I will say that there are a lot out there "trainned" that are NOT good at the healing their motivations is the money in the pocket it can bring NOT the healing that they can give. Like all things we can make money from not all motives are good one's. I am around a lot of "healers" and some have very high tech equipement that needs paid for and that is their motivations for the "fees" charged.

    If one does on line transfer healing it is an energy connection that is made. We all have self protections that trigger "walls" that go up so real damage is done with the words said more than the enrgy sent many times. The " claims" one makes on what one can do. One has to take the time I so feel to establish trusts with the one that ye work with, take the time to balance ye's energies to the other's and if that energy does not feel right have the GUTS to say ye are not one for me to try to aid.

    We need a "paper" to say we did the work but that means not we "learned" the work.

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    Post  Violet on Fri May 14, 2010 11:51 pm

    I wonder when this happens it's because the healer is using their own energy to heal rather than allowing the spirit healers to work through them.

    Yeah that would explain a lot Skye



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    Post  Lightseeker on Sat May 15, 2010 12:26 am

    I guess, It becomes a matter of trust.

    I have told my lot, In no uncertain terms that I am happy to be the instrument. However, If they do me the wrong, make me seem foolish...Thats it..Sianara.. I'll not be working for them. I'll be asking for my P 45.

    I figure that they know this. So they give me good messages . I also sense then, that the healing goes exactly where it's needed.
    I do get mixed messages incidentally. But Spirit seem to sort that out too. People pick up the bit's that are for them.

    And... In the final analysis. Me and you are made of Spirit anyways. It's what we came from, what we are made of and where we are going. This Neville body might, get Eighty or so Earth years. I reckon Spirit has had much longer than I to know what it is on with

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    Post  innerlight on Sat May 15, 2010 4:14 pm

    Akyana wrote: I would like to partially disagree.
    healing energies are conscious enough to go where they are needed
    here you talk about Reiki and Reiki like energy.
    They are said are intelligent and wise to go always right.
    But if you dont use Reiki or similar,
    just healing energy,
    then it listens to your will...no matter if its right or wrong.
    Its basically magick.

    Energy needs our will to channel it yes, but it does not need our intentions of where we want to send it. If we get in the way out healing then we are preventing a person from truly healing. If we focus our intentions on healing a persons shoulder, yes we may heal the physical pain, but we may not heal the full issue of why the person is having shoulder issues. Since our body is connected to our energetic body that body can create physical issues when not taken care of properly. So when we heal we send to the entire body so it goes to where it's needed. As opposed to us getting in the way of the healing and only healing a fraction of the issue. Yes, there are times when intuition guides a person to heal certain areas.

    nor can a person receive healing energies without their consent on some level
    if they hate your energy, they its true.
    Otherwise anyone can receive healing energy,
    and thats why its unethical do do it,
    as you never know if they dont want t or need it.


    No one can receive healing if they do not want it. You can send all your energies to a person, but if they do not want it. It will do them no good. However there are some exceptions to the rule. A person's higher self can step in and say the person needs the healing to help them at this time. Which would allow the person to heal on some level. As we all have free will to allow if we receive healing energies or not. It's unethical in that a person should not be performing healing on a person they have not asked for healing, or that they do not want healing.
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    Post  Mal5252 on Sat May 15, 2010 11:40 pm

    Violet wrote:More like passing one persons symptoms or the feelings of their illness onto another, but with what you just said it wouldn't be possible, or would it don't empaths pick up on others pain?
    Hi Violet ,
    that reminds me of an old Jerry Lewis movie called 'The Disorderly Orderly', he was a hospital orderly and whenever a patient decribed their symptoms to him he would feel it. Hilarious!

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    Post  Violet on Sun May 16, 2010 11:58 pm

    Hi Mal I haven't heard of that one



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