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    Post  Bodhicitta on Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:22 pm

    WQ Judge on "Practical Theosophy"

    The ethics of life propounded by Jesus are not different from those found in theosophy, but the latter holds in its doctrines a compelling power which is absent from Christianity and from those systems which require a man to be good for virtue's sake alone. It is not easy to practice virtue for the simple reason that we ought to do so, since the desire for reward is inherent in humanity, and is a reflection of the evolutionary law which draws the universe ever upward to higher points of development. A man reads the command of Jesus to turn the other cheek to the smiter, to resist not evil, to forgive without stint, and to take no thought for the morrow, and then - pauses. His next thought is that such a canon is wholly utopian, and would if followed subvert society. In this he is sustained by eminent authority as well as by example, for a great Bishop has declared that no state can exist under such a system.

    Theosophic doctrine, however, on either the selfish or spiritual line of life, convinces that the moral law must be obeyed. If we regard only the selfish side, we find when people are convinced that evil done in this life will be met with sure punishment in another reincarnation, they hesitate to continue the old careless life when they lived for themselves alone.

    Hence practical theosophy must enter into every detail of life in our dealings with others and our discipline of ourselves. It reminds us that we should be more critical of ourselves than of others, that we must help all men if we are to be helped ourselves. And herein the theosophist may escape the accusation of selfishness, for if in desiring to lay up for a future incarnation a store of help from others by giving assistance now himself, he does so in order that he may then be in a still better position to help humanity, there is no selfishness. It is the same as if a man were to desire to acquire this world's goods in order to help those dependent on him, and surely this is not selfish.

    The practical theosophist adds to his charitable deeds upon the material plane the still greater charity of giving to his fellow men a system of thought and life which explains their doubts while it furnishes a logical reason for the practice of virtue. He extinguishes a hell that never could burn, and the terrors of which soon faded from the mind of the sinners; but he lights the lamp of truth and throws its beams upon the mortal's path so that not only the real danger, the real punishment, can be seen, but also the reward and compensation.

    The civilized man cannot be guided by fear or superstition, but reason may take hold of him. Theosophy being not only practicable but also reasonable as well as just, its doctrines are destined to be those of the civilized man. They will gradually drive out the time-worn shibboleths of the theologian and the scientist, giving the people of coming centuries a wisdom-religion deeply-based and all-embracing.

    Were theosophical practice universal, we should not see the unjust Judge plotting beforehand with the officials of a railroad company about the decision he should render, nor the venal public officer engaged with the Judge and the officials in arranging the virtuous protest to be offered in court against the foreordained decree, for both would fear to rouse a cause which in their next life might issue in unjust accusation and punishment. Nor would men save their lives, as now they often do, at another's expense, since in succeeding incarnations that person might be the means of depriving them of life twice over. The rich man who now hoards his wealth or spends it on himself alone would not be thus guilty, seeing that, as compensation in another life, his friends would forsake him and nature seem to withdraw subsistence.

    The practical theosophist will do well if he follows the advice of the Masters now many years in print, to spread, explain, and illustrate the laws of Karma and Reincarnation so that they may enter into the lives of the people. Technical occultism and all the allurements of the Astral Light may be left for other times. Men's thoughts must be affected, and this can only be done now by giving them these two great laws. They not only explain many things, but they have also an inherent power due to their truth and their intimate connection with man, to compel attention.

    Once heard they are seldom forgotten, and even if rebelled against they have a mysterious power of keeping in the man's mind, until at last, even against his first determination, he is forced to accept them. The appreciation of justice is common to all, and the exact justice of Karma appeals even to the person who is unfortunate enough to be undergoing heavy punishment: even if, ignoring justice, he does good in order to make good Karma, it is well, for he will be reborn under conditions that may favor the coming out of unselfish motive.

    "Teach, preach, and practice this good law for the benefit of the world, even as all the Buddhas do."
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    Re: Theosophy

    Post  ameliorate on Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:39 pm

    Such words like the moral law must be obeyed sound more like enforcement.

    How about "the moral law SHOULD be obeyed" in order to contribute to a better society?
    Of course this does not take account many reasons why people may not be moral.  If karma
    exists (and I believe it does), a destructive person may be working off past karma, i.e. it could well
    be part of a bigger, spiritual 'picture' playing out. 


    One of the initial (and perhaps, best) ways to instil morals is in good parenting.  It provides
    a more solid foundation to nurture such behaviour.  Of course this cannot guarantee that
    a child will maintain any learnt moral behaviour since much depends on environmental
    factors later, e.g. the influence of peer groups.  Perhaps a developed conscience will ensure
    that someone does not stray too far on what they know is the right thing to do.
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    Post  Bodhicitta on Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:21 pm

    The power to know does not come from book-study nor from mere philosophy, but mostly from the actual practice of altruism in deed, word, and thought; for that practice purifies the covers of the soul and permits that light to shine down into the brain-mind. As the brain-mind is the receiver in the waking state, it has to be purified from sense-perception, and the truest way to do this is by combining philosophy with the highest outward and inward virtue.

    HP Blavatsky in her Collected Writings vol. IX:400G
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    Post  ameliorate on Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:43 pm

    I heard a spiritual friend recently say that they had a lot of knowledge but not much wisdom.
    I asked why that should be but did not get a reply.  Perhaps an internal block to learning?


    They did understand that wisdom comes from applied knowledge, i.e. the experience.
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    Capturing a World with Ideas

    Post  Bodhicitta on Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:11 pm

    Capturing a World with Ideas
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    IT takes some courage, I mean the true courage of the Seer, whom naught can daunt and none may stay, to oppose a world's thought-currents, and for this sublime work are called forth the truest heroism, the sublimest intellectual vision, and the deepest spiritual insight.  These last prevail always.  Sometimes he who runs counter to the world's thought-currents loses what the world esteems highest:  reputation, fortune, even perhaps life.  But his work - that is never lost!


    That is what H.P. Blavatsky did.  And that is what the Theosophical Society has been doing ever since her time, in certain ways opposing a world's lower thought-currents and prevailing in the end.  It is a strange paradox of our life on this earth that the noblest things call for sacrifice, and yet it is one of the most beautiful;  so that the Theosophist may say with the proud boast of the Christian Church - and I deem it true, and even truer than in their case - that the blood of its martyrs is the seed of its success, and of its victory.  The world is ruled by ideas, and an inescapable truth it is also that the world's lower thought-currents must be opposed by ideas higher than they.  It is only a greater idea which will capture and lead captive the less idea, the smaller.  Graecia capta Romam victricem captam subducit.  "Captured Greece leads conquering Rome captive."


    What is this Theosophical Movement which was so magnificently voiced in some of its teachings by H.P. Blavatsky, but a series, an aggregate, of grand ideas?  Not hers, not collected by her from the different great thinkers of the world;  but the god-wisdom of the world;  and she brought together the world's human wisdom in order to bulwark, for the weaker minds who needed such bulwarking, the grand verities shining with their stellar light, and bearing the imprint of divinity upon them.  Some men cannot see the imprints of divinity.  Forsooth, they say, it is to be proved!  They must put the finger into the nail-mark, into the hole.  Millions are like that, they have not learned to think yet.


    So the only way to conquer ideas is to lead them captive by grander ones;  and that is what Theosophy does:  it is a body of divine ideas - not H.P. Blavatsky's, who was but the mouthpiece in this day of them, but the ancient god-wisdom of our earth, belonging to all men, all nations, all peoples, all times;  and given to protoplastic mankind in the very dawn of this earth's evolution by beings from higher spheres who had learned it themselves from beings higher still - a primeval revelation from divinities. The echo of this revelation you will find in every land, among every people, in every religion and philosophy that has ever gained adherents.


    When H.P. Blavatsky brought our modern Theosophy to this world in our age, she did not bring something new, she brought the cosmic Wisdom, the god-wisdom studied by the Seers, as understood on this earth, which had been stated in all other ages preceding that in which she came.  She merely repeated what she had been taught;  the same starry Wisdom, divine in origin:  Science because voicing nature's facts;  Religion because raising man to divinity;  Philosophy because explanatory of all the problems that have vexed human intelligence.  No vain boast this - aye, no empty words;  no vain boast I repeat, but truths which are provable by any thinking man or woman who will study our blessed god-wisdom faithfully and honestly.
    It was an amazing world to which H.P. Blavatsky came, a world held by - the Western world I am now speaking of - held by one slender, yet in a way faithful, link to Spirit, to wit the teachings of the Avatara Jesus called the Christ, nevertheless held to by faith alone and by the efforts of a relative few in the Churches.  On the other hand, millions, the major part of the men and women of the west, absolutely psychologized - by what?  Facts?  No!  By theories, postulates, ideas, which had gained currency because they were put forth aggressively and with some few natural facts contained in them.  Why, all the science of those days practically now is in the discard, and the scientists themselves have been the discarders, the later generations of scientists have themselves overthrown the overthrower of man's hope in those days.


    It was in such a time that H.P. Blavatsky came, and almost single-handed in an era when even in the home-life, in society so-called, it was considered exceedingly bad form even to speak of the "soul" in a drawing-room;  it was considered a mark of an inferior intelligence.  Alone, she wrote her books, challenging the entire thought-current of the western world, backed as it was by authority, backed by so-called psychology, backed by everything that then was leading men astray.  And today we Theosophists happen to know that her books are being read, mostly in secret, by some of the most eminent ultra-modern scientific thinkers of our time.  What did she do?  Mainly she based her attack on that world-psychology on two things:  that the facts of nature are the facts of nature and are divine;  but that the theories of pretentious thinkers about them are not facts of nature, but are human theorizings, and should be challenged, and if good accepted pro tempore, and if bad, cast aside.  She set the example;  and other minds who had the wit to catch, to see, to understand, to perceive what she was after, gathered around her.  Some of the men eminent in science in her time belonged to the Theosophical Society, although they rarely worked for it.  They lent their names to it occasionally.  But she captured them by the ideas she enunciated, and these men did their work in their own fields.  That indeed already was much.


    Consider her titanic task:  that of changing the shifting and varying ideas of a body of earnest scientific researchers after nature's facts:  replacing these shifting ideas, then called science - which had for nearly two hundred years been casting out all that innumerable centuries of human experience had shown to be good and trustworthy - replacing these, I say, with thoughts that men could live by and become better by following, thoughts that men could die by with hope and in peace;  and bringing these back into human consciousness by the power of her own intellect voicing the immemorial traditions of the god-wisdom which she brought to us!




    - Theosophical Forum, Dec., 1938


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    Post  ameliorate on Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:29 pm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky
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    Exploring Theosophy

    Post  Bodhicitta on Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:32 am

    An introductory booklet:

    short topical articles
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    Post  Bodhicitta on Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:32 pm

    Nine-tenths of the people will reject the most overwhelming evidence, even if it be brought to them without any trouble to themselves, only because it happens to clash with their personal interests or prejudices; especially if it comes from unpopular quarters.


    Excerpt From: H.P. Blavatsky. Collected Writings - VOLUME XIII.
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    Post  Bodhicitta on Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:45 pm

    “Men cannot all be Occultists, but they can all be Theosophists. Many who have never heard of the Society are Theosophists without knowing it themselves; for the essence of Theosophy is the perfect harmonizing of the divine with the human in man, the adjustment of his godlike qualities and aspirations, and their sway over the terrestrial or animal passions in him. Kindness, absence of every ill feeling or selfishness, charity, good-will to all beings, and perfect justice to others as to one's self, are its chief features. He who teaches Theosophy preaches the gospel of good-will; and the converse of this is true also,—he who preaches the gospel of good-will, teaches Theosophy.”

    Excerpt From: H.P. Blavatsky. Collected Writings - VOLUME IX.
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    Re: Theosophy

    Post  Bodhicitta on Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:00 am

    Katherine Tingley wrote:
    Though we read and studied millions of books

    and had the greatest of teachers to instruct us,
    we should find no truth until we believed in our
    own inner selves, and that, being human, we are
    more than human - greater than the world imagines
    or dogmas and creeds allow: because there
    is within us that which is capable of absolute
    knowledge, and may not stop, without self degradation,
    at faith.

    Many who desire truth are yet unwilling to
    give up for its sake any of their mental encumbrances
    that bear no relation to truth: preconceived
    notions lingering in the halls of their
    memory; opinions born of their own whims or
    the psychological influence of their neighbors'
    mind or the books they read or their environment;
    the conventional views they absorbed through
    their education, when they were taught to accept
    cant phrases as substitutes for vital realities.
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    Blavatsky Lodge online

    Post  Bodhicitta on Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:53 pm

    It is heartening to see this old Lodge add their presence to the Internet.  May they lead all "Up and Onward Forevermore!"

    http://blavatskylodge.org.uk
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    basics of the Path

    Post  Bodhicitta on Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:48 am

    There are three truths which are absolute, and which cannot be lost, but yet may remain silent for lack of speech.

    The soul of man is immortal, and its future is the future of a thing whose growth and splendor has no limit.

    The principle which gives life dwells in us, and without us, is undying and eternally beneficent, is not heard or seen or smelt, but is perceived by the man who desires perception.

    Each man is his own absolute lawgiver, the dispenser of glory or gloom to himself; the decreer of his life, his reward, his punishment.

    These truths, which are as great as is life itself, are as simple as the simplest mind of man. Feed the hungry with them.

    From The Idyll of the White Lotus
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    Re: Theosophy

    Post  Blueanchor on Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:10 am

    Yes, agree with these. I think I was saying something similar on another thread - only, it was something that I'd arrived at by taking the journey myself, rather than by reading it (that in itself is the point of interest for me right now)
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    Re: Theosophy

    Post  Bodhicitta on Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:55 pm

    When a man has become cognizant of the god within, has set this god free, so to speak, by giving up the petty personality of ordinary life — the man’s own personal selfhood — and thus has broken the bonds fettering and binding the transcendent powers of the god within, then the messiah, the risen Christ, the savior of each one, can manifest its sublime faculties and powers. Then man shall be a living Christ — risen from the tomb of the lower selfhood into the atmosphere of spiritual glory; and the Christ light shall be working in him. He shall have awakened the living Buddha in his being, or rather, shall have evolved forth the Buddhic splendor already in his soul.

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    Post  Bodhicitta on Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:36 pm

    The law of laws of the universe is self-forgetfulness, not concentration of attention upon one’s personal freedom, not even upon your individuality. The primal law of the universe is living unto all things, not the doctrine that each must live for himself in order to develop for himself the spiritual powers within. The latter is true enough as a bald and imperfect statement; but it is also misleading, dangerous, unwise, and therefore unholy as a statement of esoteric training, unless properly qualified — always qualified with the accompanying doctrine: Give up thy life if thou wouldst find it. Live to benefit mankind, for this is the first step. If you will have the sun, then leave the earth and its clouds.

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    Re: Theosophy

    Post  Blueanchor on Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:41 am

    Over the years, I've had many conversations with people in which, at some wonderful point, this moment of realisation happens or some deeply known wisdom flows out of them (or me). To see it, to feel it and to experience those moments are really wonderful.

    The reason I mention this, is because you seem to have ceased conversation or interaction with the people here, and have taken to posting exerts from whichever book you're reading. And because of the experiences mentioned above, I can't help but feel that you minimise the chances of ever finding those moments, when that wisdom is found within yourself or unearthed through conversation.
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    Post  kardecian on Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:50 pm

    I remember reading a Theosophy book when I was 22.  I don't remember the title of the book. But, I found it fascinating, and the philosophy made sense to me
    I started attending Spiritualist meetings around the same time as I read that book.
    I found that Theosophy and Spiritualism were very similar in thought.
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    Post  Bodhicitta on Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:57 pm

    kardecian wrote:I remember reading a Theosophy book when I was 22.  I don't remember the title of the book. But, I found it fascinating, and the philosophy made sense to me
    I started attending Spiritualist meetings around the same time as I read that book.
    I found that Theosophy and Spiritualism were very similar in thought.

    Yes, there is some overlap; but that is the case with many spiritual paths and theosophy.
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    Innate Ethics

    Post  Bodhicitta on Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:31 am

    When a man acts harmoniously, he acts in accordance with the universal scheme and law; and harmony in consciousness and thought and therefore in action is what men understand by the term ethics. Ethics are not a convention; morals are not a convention; they are rooted in the harmony, in the central laws, of being; they are based on the very structural harmony of the universe.

    This instinct of ethics thus springs from within your inner constitution. It comes forth from your spiritual being recognizing harmony, order, the stateliness and majesty of beauty — beauty in thought, beauty in aspiration and feeling, beauty in action.

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    Sex - quotations

    Post  Bodhicitta on Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:58 am

    Perhaps it is my age, (or this age) but sexual fascination sure seems extra strong nowadays.  Here are some theosophists on varied aspects of the subject, compiled by David Pratt:

    Sex quotes
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    Re: Theosophy

    Post  Blueanchor on Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:48 am

    The initial passages tell a creation story about where man comes from. In all religions and cultures, people have created such stories, and there is substance that tells us of how people see themselves within the story. But they are a fictional representation of human substance, not a factual recount.

    When creation stories are used, as if they were a factual recount, to base further philosophical ideas upon, then the effect is often to lose the substance of the idea. In my opinion, that is what has happened in this piece of writing and it makes it a weak perspective.

    Having said that, I do agree with the idea that the western society that I know has created an over-indulgence in the idea of sex. I am not speaking of promiscuity or physical energies per se, but also of the sphere of mental energies that are used in the sexualisation of people in our cultural imagery and perception.

    But what is it that theosophy or any other religion that condemns it, will do about it? What is the substance behind the condemnation that will bring change? And what kind of change is within its intent? These are the questions that I didn't find in the article. So what are your thoughts on them bhodiccita?
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    Re: Theosophy

    Post  ameliorate on Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:59 am

    Slightly on the sex issue...i.e. sex gender!  I used to be a buddhist and stopped being one when I was told that I would have to reincarnate as a man to achieve enlightenment.

    Of course I do not believe this and feel it is an attempt to disempower women.
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    Post  Blueanchor on Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:33 pm

    ameliorate wrote:Slightly on the sex issue...i.e. sex gender!  I used to be a buddhist and stopped being one when I was told that I would have to reincarnate as a man to achieve enlightenment.

    Of course I do not believe this and feel it is an attempt to disempower women.
    It doesn't matter what you think you are or identify as being, whether that is a Buddhist or a woman or man. You are only ever being your life energy.
       
    If a path or a certain philosophy helps you in some way, then being purely your own being, there is no rule or perception that need stop you from following that path for yourself.
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    Re: Theosophy

    Post  ameliorate on Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:41 pm

    Blueanchor wrote:
    ameliorate wrote:Slightly on the sex issue...i.e. sex gender!  I used to be a buddhist and stopped being one when I was told that I would have to reincarnate as a man to achieve enlightenment.

    Of course I do not believe this and feel it is an attempt to disempower women.
    It doesn't matter what you think you are or identify as being, whether that is a Buddhist or a woman or man. You are only ever being your life energy.
       
    If a path or a certain philosophy helps you in some way, then being purely your own being, there is no rule or perception that need stop you from following that path for yourself.
    Of course....which is why I am no longer a buddhist!  I am empowered!
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    Re: Theosophy

    Post  Bodhicitta on Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:06 pm

    ameliorate wrote:Slightly on the sex issue...i.e. sex gender!  I used to be a buddhist and stopped being one when I was told that I would have to reincarnate as a man to achieve enlightenment.

    Of course I do not believe this and feel it is an attempt to disempower women.
     
    There are many stages of bodhi or enlightenment, so you were misinformed and/or credulous.  Srimala bodhisattva is one example of a high bodhisattva using a female body, she even has an entire sutra named after her.

    It is true that all buddhas use male bodies, but they and high bodhisattvas can shape shift to female or non-human or deva if that will benefit whatever beings are being helped.

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